You all gonna be here when I wake up?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Aug 23, 2005 7:32:46 pm PDT #742 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

But Cass, it's so pretty and well organized in here.


Volans - Aug 23, 2005 7:33:34 pm PDT #743 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Grooming Politicians for Christ: [link]

Hannah Woody, for instance, came away from the institute's seminars confident that abolishing the Department of Education is not just a Republican goal, but also a Christian imperative.


Cass - Aug 23, 2005 7:33:42 pm PDT #744 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I don't know where you are but no way that is my brain. Unless you organized. In which case, thank you.


billytea - Aug 23, 2005 7:33:49 pm PDT #745 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

How can an all loving god not love his navel? I dunno. Needing to create something to love strikes me as self-indulgent.
It's not about creating something to love, it's about beneficence. If he has the capacity to give, then being all-loving would imply that he does so.

When you give a gift, is it normally all about you or the person you're giving to? Why do you see it as self-indulgent?


tommyrot - Aug 23, 2005 7:35:36 pm PDT #746 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I don't see why an all-loving all-powerful god needs a universe. Can't he just love his navel?

Or just play with sock puppets.

maybe we're all sock puppets but don't know it...


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2005 7:36:53 pm PDT #747 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Who is the creation of the universe to benefit? Why is a universe better than no universe? Who suffers from its lack of existence?

I bet ALAPG's mum is tired of telling him to stop fidgeting and to just sit down and keeps snapping at him to love everything like a good little god.


Cass - Aug 23, 2005 7:37:59 pm PDT #748 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I catch up with 300 Natter posts, there is deep philosophical discussion and I end up debating whether we are sock puppets or navel lint.

eta: sock puppy? wtf?


Bob Bob - Aug 23, 2005 7:38:35 pm PDT #749 of 10002

Yes, but in this context, it equates to saying that he has the freedom not to be all-loving.

Not obviously. One could argue that a world with just God in it is just as morally, aesthetically, and metaphysically good as a world with God and a space-time universe.


Gudanov - Aug 23, 2005 7:39:19 pm PDT #750 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

I don't see why an all-loving all-powerful god needs a universe.

I have the same question. Also, if God creates the universe doesn't that mean everything is predetermined? Time is a property of the universe so in producing the universe all of time is also created. That implies that there are no moral choices for anybody since God has crafted all events. This also brings to my mind why does the universe need a creator, it seems like then you have to ask who created the creator and it's creators all the way down. To my mind it would be more interesting to have God be a part of the universe since then you can apply the concept of time to God and introduce free will.


Kat - Aug 23, 2005 7:43:29 pm PDT #751 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

But not for us, Cass, the sock puppets. There's just confusion there.

Though ita did make me snork with this:

I bet ALAPG's mum is tired of telling him to stop fidgeting and to just sit down and keeps snapping at him to love everything like a good little god.

I think it's time for me to go to sleep.