Inara: Who's winning? Simon: I can't tell. They don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.

'Bushwhacked'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Emily - Aug 23, 2005 12:53:48 pm PDT #620 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Someone I loathe just agreed with me, and I'm trying not to freak.

Ooh, I hate that with a squirmy unproud hate.

Very bad on Netscape.

Though not quite a tautology, quite often also true. The sad part with a site like that is, they can't exactly issue a retraction. I suppose they could make one of their pop-up bullet-points tomorrow "Netscape painfully and stupidly misstates theologian's argument!" but the odds against are... well. There aren't any odds for it.


Scrappy - Aug 23, 2005 12:55:02 pm PDT #621 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Philosophy is like math, only it uses ideas isntead of numbers. So you try to prove or disprove ideas because the mental act of wrestling with those ideas is interesting in and of itself--and also because you might stumble on something useful for non-Philosophy along the way.

What's not to like? You might not want o to engage in it yourself, but it's a cool thing.


shrift - Aug 23, 2005 12:55:06 pm PDT #622 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

It might be too late.

I, for one, resent the implication that Spuffy turned me into a pervert. I was a pervert long before Spuffy! I wave my perv flag with dysfunctional pride.

Someone I loathe just agreed with me, and I'm trying not to freak.

Pretend it was a monkey typing Hamlet?


Bob Bob - Aug 23, 2005 12:55:27 pm PDT #623 of 10002

Ita wrote,

How do you define a conclusion as being interesting?

Well, there are lots of ways to define it--e.g., "a conclusion is interesting if someone somewhere finds it interesting or would so find it were she exposed to it." But I imagine that's not what you have in mind.

Sad to say, philosophers are very parochial about interesting conclusions. All they're concerned about, most of the time, is whether the conclusion is interesting to them. But surely the conclusion, "there exists an all-powerful being who knows everything and loves everyone more than anyone else loves them. Moreover, this being created the world and interacts with us" is pretty interesting to people besides philosophers.


Kat - Aug 23, 2005 12:57:06 pm PDT #624 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Aw, Bob is here. That's so cute!

Of course the philosophy stuff is over my head. Which is why I am not taking the Philosophy of Death class I thought I would take and instead am taking Crime, Violence and Fear in America.


Lee - Aug 23, 2005 12:57:55 pm PDT #625 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm home! I have soup, and pudding, and smoothies, and ice cream, and vicadin, and Photoshop elements, and I'm home.


bon bon - Aug 23, 2005 12:58:40 pm PDT #626 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Thank dog (that came out "god" so many times that I might have to cave and admit the existence of at least one deity, male) that Bob Bob chose capitals.

I told him to!

Confidential to Bob Bob: although I think it should be okay to start sentences with upper case "Ita", she hates it when you don't type it in lower-case.


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2005 12:58:44 pm PDT #627 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Philosophy is like math, only it uses ideas isntead of numbers.

By the time I got to the interesting bits of math, there were precious few numbers. It was all about the symbols, and that's why the philosophy and math departments finally had to make it so you couldn't get credit for taking certain courses in both departments. Luckily they didn't notice this until after I had done so.

However, a mathematician will tell you that certain proofs are just pencil marks on paper, and others make your co-workers sit up and nod appreciatively.

I outlined my criteria for an interesting wrestling match -- I was wondering what the philosphical wisdom on "interesting" was. Also, if it includes a racquetball court.

Which reminds me -- Nutty -- you need to learn how to get the cheetah to come to you.


Emily - Aug 23, 2005 12:58:53 pm PDT #628 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

It'd be more interesting, to me, to prove that an all-powerful and all-loving god would make faith a test, the losing side of which gets eternal damnation.

But not interesting enough to study the physics of space-time, I'm afraid.


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2005 1:00:42 pm PDT #629 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

All they're concerned about, most of the time, is whether the conclusion is interesting to them.

So it's only about the conclusion? Not about the axioms or the process of getting there? Because you could just pick a good conclusion, rig the argument, and booyah!