Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

'Shells'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


libkitty - Sep 05, 2005 2:55:06 pm PDT #4762 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Indifference is a weapon of mass destruction.

From Dennis Kucinich's speech on the House floor. I think that this man is on par with Jay Hammond, which will probably only mean anything to Juliana, but if anyone else remembers my comments on Hammond's recent passing, you will know that this is about the highest compliment I could give a politician.


Kat - Sep 05, 2005 2:56:55 pm PDT #4763 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Like, explain how you could leave the Wild Animal Park after only a morning.

Well, we left at about 2:00 PM because it was 1000 degrees and sunny and not much shade. Also, we have reservations to go on a sleepover there in late October. So we didn't feel compelled to see everything this time. We didn't even make it up to the condor ridge.

What we did do:

Took the monorail around the park. There were issues with power from PG&E so our train was stopped for about 15 minutes. We were super early so we got to see a ton of rhino farily close to the train. The prey animals (you know, those with hooves) are so much more impressive at the Wild Animal Park where they get to hang out and roam more than they are at the zoo.

We walked around for a little bit, including going to Lion Camp. Listening to the male lion roar was unsettling. The females were markedly unimpressed. I like the fact that with the Lions you casn see them relatively close to through the windows or you can see them across the ravine.

We then headed through the newish "Heart of Africa" enclosures. These are both beautiful, shaded and pretty awesome. The primates on primate island were hiding, but you could see them in a hole in the log. We got a refill of lemonade (yay lemonade!) in our animal sippy cup that we bought last visit and then we watched the giraffes. you could feed them acacia leaves. We opted not to feed them, but the keeper came. As soon as they saw her, they were grabbing branches out of her truck, she'd gently push them away. Keep in mind that a full grown giraffe's head is about half the height of keeper.

Eventually a baby came walking up. The baby giraffe apparently still had an umbilical cord attached. Baby so didn't understand what was going on, but was cute nevertheless.

On our way out, we stopped at the nursery and at the ring-tailed lemurs.

We didn't go gawk at the big cats (the tigers etc) because the night before we got to see all the big cats (jaguars, leopards etc) super active at the zoo. Early evening is the best time to go, apparently. It was mid morning afternoon by the time we would have seen the cats at the Wild Animal Park and that didn't seem worth it.

FTR, I still love the saimangs and orangutans (at the Zoo). AND the teen panda was super active.

I'd like to pay the minor fortune to see the cheetahs run.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 05, 2005 2:57:34 pm PDT #4764 of 10002
What is even happening?

I tend to agree with libkitty and brenda about Bush. I also think this was just sheer incompetence at the Federal level, and is as--or nearly as--disturbing as either ignorance or malice. I know nothing about Brown or Chertoff, except that they should have been fired on Thursday morning.


brenda m - Sep 05, 2005 3:02:10 pm PDT #4765 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

— an egotistical self-absorbed prick whose one good quality is that he isn't a bigot.

Perzactly.

I also think this was just sheer incompetence at the Federal level, and is as--or nearly as--disturbing as either ignorance or malice.

I think, after tossing this around in my mind the last few days, that it's a combination of single-minded focus on their own priorities tied in with utter confidence that conseqences are things that happen to other people.

It's just their bad luck, or rather, the luck running out, that this one is too big to handwave.


billytea - Sep 05, 2005 3:04:05 pm PDT #4766 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Well, we left at about 2:00 PM because it was 1000 degrees and sunny and not much shade. Also, we have reservations to go on a sleepover there in late October. So we didn't feel compelled to see everything this time. We didn't even make it up to the condor ridge.

Now I am jealous that you live close enough to say 'maybe next time'. I go by the philosophy of "Live each visit to the San Diego Zoo and/or Wild Animal Park as if it were your last. Ooh, condors!!"


Cass - Sep 05, 2005 3:06:40 pm PDT #4767 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

We didn't even make it up to the condor ridge.
::blink::

Wha????

I go by the philosophy of "Live each visit to the San Diego Zoo and/or Wild Animal Park as if it were your last. Ooh, condors!!"
Just because I drove you past one armed robbery???

I can see the smoke from a brush fire that is 18 miles away from me. This is wrong. I kinda hope they get it under control about five minutes ago.


libkitty - Sep 05, 2005 3:07:40 pm PDT #4768 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

The one good thing about my dad moving to the central coast is that LA will be just as inconvenient to fly into as Oakland, so I might actually get a chance to see the San Diego Zoo and/or Wild Animal Park for the very first time.


erikaj - Sep 05, 2005 3:08:56 pm PDT #4769 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I've never seen the Animal Park. The zoo is great, though.


billytea - Sep 05, 2005 3:12:17 pm PDT #4770 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Just because I drove you past one armed robbery???

Hey, it's more than anyone else thought to do for me while I was in the States.

Y'know, I reckon Jack Bauer's probably lost more than one lover because he insists on changing the safe word on a nightly basis.


§ ita § - Sep 05, 2005 3:13:18 pm PDT #4771 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I reckon Jack Bauer has the most vanilla of sex.