What about "Origin Belief" instead of "Origin Myth?"
Works for me. Now if we can just get a consensus...
Early: So is it still her room when it's empty? Does the room, the thing, have purpose? Or do we -- what's the word? Simon: I really can't help you. Early: The plan is to take your sister. Get the reward, which is substantial. 'Imbue.' That's the word.
'Objects In Space'
Natter .38 Special
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Wolfram - Sep 01, 2005 1:24:36 pm PDT #3823 of 10002
Visilurking
P.M. Marc - Sep 01, 2005 1:28:07 pm PDT #3824 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I'm contemplating pretty hair of my own. Maybe I should go red again. Like, really red. So red it doesn't even look real.
copper or ruby?
Wolfram - Sep 01, 2005 1:28:37 pm PDT #3825 of 10002
Visilurking
There is a derogatory sense of "myth" in American English that implies that it is an inherently false belief.
I don't agree with that. And am a native American English speaker. I'm not saying you're wrong to think it, just that not everybody does.
There is a tendency (and I'm not picking on you Jesse) to take dw's statements and add the words "Everyone agrees that..." to the beginning of them. Try adding the words "I think that..." and maybe his opinions won't seem as generalizing.
Kristen - Sep 01, 2005 1:30:46 pm PDT #3826 of 10002
The picture I saw was ruby but I think copper might be better with my skin.
Jesse - Sep 01, 2005 1:31:54 pm PDT #3827 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Wolfram, in the sentence I quoted, he specifically says that everyone does agree. Or at least, American English speakers. I don't believe I misread his statement.
dw, I would suggest making more "I" statements, in general. It just goes over better here.
msbelle - Sep 01, 2005 1:36:26 pm PDT #3828 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Kristen when I was thinking of going red red, not natural red. I was looking at pictures of Naomi Judd that convinced me not to. Now I can;t find any, but there was a time when her hair was tomato red.
P.M. Marc - Sep 01, 2005 1:36:47 pm PDT #3829 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
The picture I saw was ruby but I think copper might be better with my skin.
You'd look terrific with a really intense copper.
Steph L. - Sep 01, 2005 1:36:59 pm PDT #3830 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism
It sounds like the wild, despairing Gotham of No Man's Land
I've been thinking that for about 48 hours now.
Kristen - Sep 01, 2005 1:39:42 pm PDT #3831 of 10002
So google images gives you lots of normal pictures of people with red hair, if you search for "red hair." If you search for "redhead," you get porn.
Just FYI.
there was a time when her hair was tomato red.
Yeah, see this is not the red I'm looking for.
You'd look terrific with a really intense copper.
Thanks! My beloved former hairdresser (who abandoned me to go to Utah) used to always steer me towards the coppers. They work better on me.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 01, 2005 1:40:27 pm PDT #3832 of 10002
What is even happening?
Oh, my word.
Wolfram, I think where the conversation started going pear shaped was the comparison with the derogatory use of "boy." I don't mind "myth" myself, because I recognize that it's not automatically falsifying, but you and dw are right, that it carries that context.
Jesse, all dw said that time, was that there is a derogatory sense of the word in American English. There is. Someone upstream quoted the second def. in some dictionary. He didn't say all, most, or many American speakers do anything.
Can't we all just pick on the government, again?