Everybody dies, Tracey. Someone's carrying a bullet for you right now, doesn't even know it. The trick is to die of old age before it finds you.

Mal ,'The Message'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Sep 01, 2005 12:52:53 pm PDT #3797 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Because people of faith don't appreciate having any part of their religion called a "myth."

This is a ridiculously large generalization.

Among pagans, the word myth is pretty par for the course. I see no reason to assume that it's a derogatory term, rather than a descriptive one.


msbelle - Sep 01, 2005 12:53:49 pm PDT #3798 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Because people of faith don't appreciate having any part of their religion called a "myth."

People of faith need to tell us what to call it then, because "origin myth" pretty well indicates what we are talking about, and is consistently applied to belief systems both living and dead. I mean, we call it a myth because it can't be proved, right? Can you think of a better term that you wouldn't consider insulting?

As one, and I can only speak for myself, I don't mind the term. I think a "many" may have been left out of the first post.

And as for post the second, surely you don't expect a woide and varied group of people to all be in agreement.


JenP - Sep 01, 2005 12:55:35 pm PDT #3799 of 10002

Because people of faith don't appreciate having any part of their religion called a "myth."

...is a bit of a sweeping generalization (those just never go over well around here, and boy howdy, do I mean almost never because otherwise I'd be making one).

Myth is not an offensive term to me, and, frankly, I consider many things in the Bible to be metaphor, myth, whatever, and I'm not offending myself by saying that. But, clearly, I'm not a strict interpreter, so... I can see where the possibility that people who interpret strictly might be offended. But that's quite different from the general tag "people of faith."


DavidS - Sep 01, 2005 12:55:43 pm PDT #3800 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Unless I'm forgetting one....

"Sweet Zombie Jesus!"

The streets were underwater, and in fairness, no one could know the scope of the disaster it has become; no one knew how many people stayed. The desperation and the widespread anarchy seems to have arisen within the last 24 hours.

Well, yeah, because as Terry Ebbert, head of the city's emergency operations, said: "This is a national emergency. This is a national disgrace," he said. "FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control."

The anarchy is arising because they haven't set up a command and gotten troops in. Now you've got the situation at the Convention Center where:

About 15,000 to 20,000 people who had taken shelter at the convention center to await buses grew increasingly hostile. Police Chief Eddie Compass said he sent in 88 officers to quell the situation at the building, but they were quickly beaten back by an angry mob.

A military heliocpter tried to land at the convention center several times to drop off food and water. But the rushing crowd forced the choppers to back off. Troopers then tossed the supplies to the crowd from 10 feet off the ground and flew away.

I don't think my expectations are way out of line. I know it takes time to mobilize but the situation has deteriorated exactly because the response has been inadequate and poorly coordinated.


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2005 12:57:38 pm PDT #3801 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

But that's quite different from the big pot of "people of faith."

Isn't "people of faith" more of a pie?


erikaj - Sep 01, 2005 12:57:55 pm PDT #3802 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

No keymaster, obviously.


JenP - Sep 01, 2005 12:59:14 pm PDT #3803 of 10002

I just changed it to "general tag". Pot was really just not working at all, was it? But, you know, THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

Ahem.


Wolfram - Sep 01, 2005 12:59:24 pm PDT #3804 of 10002
Visilurking

Rick, Merriam-Webster's second definition:

2 a : a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society (seduced by the American myth of individualism -- Orde Coombs)
b : an unfounded or false notion

"False notion" may not be the only definition, but it is a valid one, and when I hear the word I generally apply some element of that one to it. I don't think I'm alone in that.


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2005 1:01:31 pm PDT #3805 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Pot was really just not working at all, was it? But, you know, THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

Heh. I wasn't even thinking of "pot" that way - I was just being silly absurdist.

I think "pot" works in a sort of "melting pot" kind of way.


JenP - Sep 01, 2005 1:03:53 pm PDT #3806 of 10002

Well, I changed it before I saw your post, though melting pot sort of where I was aiming. And I totally get that you were MOCKING MY ABSURD WORD CHOICE in jest. It made me laugh. Also, caps lock is fun.