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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Sep 01, 2005 11:14:56 am PDT #3725 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Who is in charge here? Is there a Giuliani-like figure appearing on the news?


Nutty - Sep 01, 2005 11:15:43 am PDT #3726 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

If you've ever seen post-sporting event riots, you've seen Teh Craxxy, just, on a small scale. Think bigger, and no riot police to bop them upside the head, and you have what is happening in New Orleans.

after 9/11 it was made very very clear that when different rescue groups have different communications systems you have breakdowns and problems.

Heck, after Grenada, when the army and navy discovered their systems couldn't communicate, so they both had to call home to Virginia to get through to each other, you would think people would work this shit out. But it's so much harder to learn from someone else's mistake than it is to learn from your own.


ChiKat - Sep 01, 2005 11:15:47 am PDT #3727 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

The person I keep seeing on the news is Gov. Blanco.


DavidS - Sep 01, 2005 11:16:52 am PDT #3728 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Lovely. In breaking news...

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WASHINGTON - House Speaker Dennis Hastert dropped a bombshell on flood-ravaged New Orleans on Thursday by suggesting that it isn’t sensible to rebuild the city.

"It doesn't make sense to me," Hastert told the Daily Herald in suburban Chicago in editions published today. "And it's a question that certainly we should ask."

Hastert's comments came as Congress cut short its summer recess and raced back to Washington to take up an emergency aid package expected to be $10 billion or more. Details of the legislation are still emerging, but it is expected to target critical items such as buses to evacuate the city, reinforcing existing flood protection and providing food and shelter for a growing population of refugees.

The Illinois Republican’s comments drew an immediate rebuke from Louisiana officials.

“That’s like saying we should shut down Los Angeles because it’s built in an earthquake zone,” former Sen. John Breaux, D-La., said. “Or like saying that after the Great Chicago fire of 1871, the U.S. government should have just abandoned the city.”

Hastert said that he supports an emergency bailout, but raised questions about a long-term rebuilding effort. As the most powerful voice in the Republican-controlled House, Hastert is in a position to block any legislation that he opposes.

"We help replace, we help relieve disaster," Hastert said. "But I think federal insurance and everything that goes along with it... we ought to take a second look at that."

The speaker’s comments were in stark contrast to those delivered by President Bush during an appearance this morning on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

“I want the people of New Orleans to know that after rescuing them and stabilizing the situation, there will be plans in place to help this great city get back on its feet,” Bush said. “There is no doubt in my mind that New Orleans is going to rise up again as a great city.”


msbelle - Sep 01, 2005 11:18:30 am PDT #3729 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

possibly renting Say Anything on the way home.


Nutty - Sep 01, 2005 11:21:12 am PDT #3730 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Dennis, hon, I know it's your job to put your foot in your mouth, but generally speaking, it's not smart to just write off the 5th largest sea-port (in shipping volume) in the world.

Also, that's a lot of people who now, will never vote for you for president.


DavidS - Sep 01, 2005 11:21:20 am PDT #3731 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

possibly renting Say Anything on the way home.

If only Lloyd Dobler was organizing these disaster relief efforts. The keymaster wouldn't let us down.


dw - Sep 01, 2005 11:24:57 am PDT #3732 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Per my annoying, but occasionally accurate sib who was there, they're part of it, but by no means all of it, because there were plenty of people in uniform who went more than a touch power-mad during that time and attacked the crowds unprovoked. As I recall, his recount mapped well enough to what I heard coming out of the local news (not the on air stuff, but reports from the station itself) that I believe it.

The anarchists prodded the police, and the police went bonkers and just started attacking everyone.

The National Guard was very professional during WTO, at least in my experience (my job was at 6th and Stewart). Idiot protestors would walk up and taunt them, and they'd do nothing but tell them to move along. The police, OTOH, were spoiling for a fight. You learned very quickly to give them a very, very wide berth.


dw - Sep 01, 2005 11:26:13 am PDT #3733 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

If only Lloyd Dobler was organizing these disaster relief efforts. The keymaster wouldn't let us down.

"Mayor Nagin commended Dobler on the success of Operation Dude You Must Chill."


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2005 11:26:59 am PDT #3734 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Off topic, but this is the best editorial I've read that argues against teaching "Intelligent Design" in school (and I've read a shit-load of them): [link]

By Richard Dawkins and Jerry Coyne in The Guardian.