Does anybody mind if I pass out?

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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 01, 2005 10:59:00 am PDT #3715 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

here are a certain percentage of folks who are very gleeful to have the complete and utter breakdown of social order. That's all there is to it. It's not that many people, but what you're not understanding is that for some people this is better.
I guess this is something I didn't know, really know. Who knew? My cynicsm had bounds!


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2005 11:00:28 am PDT #3716 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Sadly, Hec is right....


dw - Sep 01, 2005 11:02:00 am PDT #3717 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Two out of three it is.

On larger, I was also going by "personally estimated dick size."


Gudanov - Sep 01, 2005 11:03:29 am PDT #3718 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

On larger, I was also going by "personally estimated dick size."

Oh, the PEDS.


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2005 11:05:24 am PDT #3719 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, the PEDS.

Yeah, I remember how bummed I was when the International Standards Institute switched the PEDS to the metric system.


DavidS - Sep 01, 2005 11:06:05 am PDT #3720 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Cindy, I do think those are legitimate questions. I've certainly heard of people running out of gas in the South because there's no electricity to power the pumps.

I do think, however, that the response has not been well coordinated. As noted way upthread, after 9/11 it was made very very clear that when different rescue groups have different communications systems you have breakdowns and problems. It really should have been addressed at a very high level that everybody who would be responding to a major catastrophe should be hooked into the same communication system, which should be run off something other than the local power grid.

Also, it shouldn't have taken this long to get people out of the Dome. Military convoys could've been mobilized from Houston on the first day. And they're designed to bring their own gas, and go over off-road terrain.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 01, 2005 11:06:25 am PDT #3721 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

here are a certain percentage of folks who are very gleeful to have the complete and utter breakdown of social order. That's all there is to it. It's not that many people, but what you're not understanding is that for some people this is better.

And I think the fact that the cause is something beyond anyone's resonsibility just adds fuel to the fire. If this had been some sort of attack, I suspect there would be less crazy. Sadly, if this was some sort of attack, it would probably be a lot easier to do damage control and disaster relief.


dw - Sep 01, 2005 11:06:38 am PDT #3722 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Sadly, Hec is right....

During WTO we had "anarchists" running around downtown revelling in the chaos. Even after the National Guard rolled in they kept trying to start something. They were most of the reason why we had as much violence as we had.


Fred Pete - Sep 01, 2005 11:08:38 am PDT #3723 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

To back up:

You ever play Wisconsin Chubby?

Corwood, the joke goes deeper. I grew up in Wisconsin (Beloit/Janesville) and am not exactly slender. And I did have a carrom board as a kid.


P.M. Marc - Sep 01, 2005 11:14:08 am PDT #3724 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

They were most of the reason why we had as much violence as we had.

Per my annoying, but occasionally accurate sib who was there, they're part of it, but by no means all of it, because there were plenty of people in uniform who went more than a touch power-mad during that time and attacked the crowds unprovoked. As I recall, his recount mapped well enough to what I heard coming out of the local news (not the on air stuff, but reports from the station itself) that I believe it.