Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Aug 30, 2005 8:29:48 am PDT #2538 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Oh. My.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 30, 2005 8:31:34 am PDT #2539 of 10002
What is even happening?

My personal favourite disaster scenario is another flu pandemic. We cosy first-worlders will probably be spared the worst of it, but up to 5% of the world's population died in the 1918 outbreak, and we're more overpopulated now than then. Even if the disease itself didn't do so much damage, the economic impact would be pretty severe.

Yes, I was one of those kids who cried themselves to sleep at night convinced I was going to wake up to a nuclear holocaust, why do you ask?

Hee. I was following the conversation based on Susan's question and was all set to respond to her, "Don't worry. We'll all be dead of bird flu, long before the oil runs out."

We have the science and technology to provide alternatives to oil and gas. But we won't fully exploit them until oil is so expensive that we have no choice.

I also think Big Business needs to decide/figure it it can exploit the masses as well with alternatives as they can with petro based energy sources.


le nubian - Aug 30, 2005 8:33:16 am PDT #2540 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Have you seen this photo?


Calli - Aug 30, 2005 8:33:57 am PDT #2541 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I also think Big Business needs to decide/figure it it can exploit the masses as well with alternatives as they can with petro based energy sources.

That's gonna be the interesting part. I mean, if we get individual solar/wind/snarkonium generators to create electricity for our houses and use that to charge up our electric cars (or create the hydrogen for our H2 powered cars) where will Big Power (oil/coal/nukes) get their cut?


Jars - Aug 30, 2005 8:34:03 am PDT #2542 of 10002

I also get paranoid about the (over)use of antibacterial agents in soaps and the like, on the theory that we're producing superbacteria that will one day rise and kill us all.

Yes, this. Also doctors over-prescribing antibiotics, and people not finishing out their courses. And all the anti-biotics that end up in our diets. Which means delightful new friends like drug resistant Staph infections and TB.


tommyrot - Aug 30, 2005 8:35:41 am PDT #2543 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I also think Big Business needs to decide/figure it it can exploit the masses as well with alternatives as they can with petro based energy sources.

Good point. One problem is that Big Solar and Big Windpower don't really exist yet, and Big Oil (or a lot of Big Oil, anyway) still has some incentive to maintain the status quo, and does have some significant influence in our government....


beth b - Aug 30, 2005 8:37:28 am PDT #2544 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I think the problem is that we have the ablity to make the transaction from oil to smooth or rough. and With the current way we tend to think - it looks realy rough. There isn' a lot of recognition that oil is a finite source. ( when doesn't really matter) And it isn't just fuel - we use a lot of petrolum based products - such as plastics - that are part of our every day life. Current technologies for solar/wind/ even clean coal could be made less expensive over time - with money put into to it. 200$ a barrel might happen - but we can prevent it from being a major deal.


Kathy A - Aug 30, 2005 8:37:46 am PDT #2545 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I delight in reading articles about people who drive their cars on corn oil.

Biodiesel is a big thing here in Illinois (what with all the corn/soy farmers), so I wouldn't be surprised if this expands across the midwest, and not just to governmental vehicles, but to retrofitted personal cars, as well.


Dana - Aug 30, 2005 8:38:23 am PDT #2546 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm toying with the idea of getting a pay-as-you-go phone/plan from T-Mobile. Anyone have any experience they want to share, or an alternate recommendation that I could get up and running by Thursday morning?


§ ita § - Aug 30, 2005 8:38:23 am PDT #2547 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh. My.

Focus on the pretty. The NOLA stuff is making my throat tight (which isn't me bitching -- I understand that the sharing is very therapeutic), so I'm skimming and thinking of other things.