Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Aug 30, 2005 8:33:16 am PDT #2540 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Have you seen this photo?


Calli - Aug 30, 2005 8:33:57 am PDT #2541 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I also think Big Business needs to decide/figure it it can exploit the masses as well with alternatives as they can with petro based energy sources.

That's gonna be the interesting part. I mean, if we get individual solar/wind/snarkonium generators to create electricity for our houses and use that to charge up our electric cars (or create the hydrogen for our H2 powered cars) where will Big Power (oil/coal/nukes) get their cut?


Jars - Aug 30, 2005 8:34:03 am PDT #2542 of 10002

I also get paranoid about the (over)use of antibacterial agents in soaps and the like, on the theory that we're producing superbacteria that will one day rise and kill us all.

Yes, this. Also doctors over-prescribing antibiotics, and people not finishing out their courses. And all the anti-biotics that end up in our diets. Which means delightful new friends like drug resistant Staph infections and TB.


tommyrot - Aug 30, 2005 8:35:41 am PDT #2543 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I also think Big Business needs to decide/figure it it can exploit the masses as well with alternatives as they can with petro based energy sources.

Good point. One problem is that Big Solar and Big Windpower don't really exist yet, and Big Oil (or a lot of Big Oil, anyway) still has some incentive to maintain the status quo, and does have some significant influence in our government....


beth b - Aug 30, 2005 8:37:28 am PDT #2544 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I think the problem is that we have the ablity to make the transaction from oil to smooth or rough. and With the current way we tend to think - it looks realy rough. There isn' a lot of recognition that oil is a finite source. ( when doesn't really matter) And it isn't just fuel - we use a lot of petrolum based products - such as plastics - that are part of our every day life. Current technologies for solar/wind/ even clean coal could be made less expensive over time - with money put into to it. 200$ a barrel might happen - but we can prevent it from being a major deal.


Kathy A - Aug 30, 2005 8:37:46 am PDT #2545 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I delight in reading articles about people who drive their cars on corn oil.

Biodiesel is a big thing here in Illinois (what with all the corn/soy farmers), so I wouldn't be surprised if this expands across the midwest, and not just to governmental vehicles, but to retrofitted personal cars, as well.


Dana - Aug 30, 2005 8:38:23 am PDT #2546 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm toying with the idea of getting a pay-as-you-go phone/plan from T-Mobile. Anyone have any experience they want to share, or an alternate recommendation that I could get up and running by Thursday morning?


§ ita § - Aug 30, 2005 8:38:23 am PDT #2547 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh. My.

Focus on the pretty. The NOLA stuff is making my throat tight (which isn't me bitching -- I understand that the sharing is very therapeutic), so I'm skimming and thinking of other things.


Jars - Aug 30, 2005 8:39:06 am PDT #2548 of 10002

The EU has a target of 12% of energy from renewable sources by 2010, but it's not going to happen. 2015 looks like a better estimate. Which is something. And where Europe leads, other nations avert their eyes and pretend they can't hear.


Susan W. - Aug 30, 2005 8:40:25 am PDT #2549 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Thanks, y'all. Stepping away from the scary book.