I agree with ita on the Amazon for Reasons.

I also agree with Tom & Rob.

I am pretty agreeable at the moment. But yeah, if you're going to have to cut bait anyway, I'd say move. This is the second time, and I see no reason why there won't continue to be additional times, unless iStrata gets more current. And the next time, it may not be so innocuous.

However, I am not the we doing the work, so you guys should do as you see fit.

There's this: [link]

I've done tiny little test Rails apps on Heroku and it works like magic.

What can we do to predict our usage in their cute terminology so we can have an idea of how much these new paradigms actually cost?

I was going to say: that looks like it can get very pricey very quickly.

PHP on Heroku sounds like a kinda weird choice to me (and looks fiddly, from the instructions) -- on the other hand, a lot of Ruby devs I know seriously love them for the easy cloud not-managing-the-linux environment. While I've never used them, I gather PHPFog and PHPCloud do the same kind of service without having to retrofit quite as much to get the basic environment set up.

Okay, I vote for the minimum retrofitting at the minimum cost.

The clouds I'm familiar with doesn't take tweaking on the app side, like, at all. But then again, it's being sold to a corporation light on admins, not to individuals with duct tape and wire.

What can we realistically expect?

Okay, can we re-open the re-hosting topic?

It seems like the cloud options out there are not like the clouds with which I'm familiar, and have usage-related pricing in units that I don't understand.

I think we clearly should move, and I don't really care if it's to a cloud or a shared server, but if the cloud is too complex a migration or maintenance, or an increase in cost, I vote nay.

First thing I need to be remembered of (deliberate) is our current costs. Moneymaster J-Dog?

I think the cloud migration would be too complex.

How about [link] ? The level 3 vps would be a very similar machine to the current server so porting over should be easy. The cost looks like about half what we're paying right now. And it looks like they'll take care of security issues as long as we have a server running plesk.

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I was just looking at adjusting my plan with Dreamhost, and they offer this: [link]

They have had a security issue recently, but according to Polgara (she was affected, I was not) they were responsive--they refuse to help with anything remotely resembling code, as is fair, but have been stable for me when they don't move me without warning (I have shared hosting).

That looks fine too. Not plesk, which will be a little bit of a learning curve, but even cheaper for the 300mb vps.