Mal: Take your people and go. Captain: You would have done the same. Mal: We can already see I haven't.

'Out Of Gas'


Buffistas Building a Better Board ++

Do you have problems, concerns, or recommendations about the technical side of the Phoenix? Air them here. Compliments also welcome.


amych - Jul 25, 2005 7:34:38 am PDT #24 of 4593
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think it's more important to have the basic thread name first than to have it be compilable.

That logic never worked on any of my CS profs. (Nor any of my compilers, for that matter)

t /natter


DXMachina - Jul 25, 2005 8:05:30 am PDT #25 of 4593
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

It really should be named "++ Buffistas Building a Better Board".

I thought the whole idea was that it was supposed to be a riff off of the name "C++." t knows nothing about C syntax...


tommyrot - Jul 25, 2005 8:14:00 am PDT #26 of 4593
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I thought the whole idea was that it was supposed to be a riff off of the name "C++."

Yes. But the name "C++" is a riff off of incrementing variables in C, which can actually be done two ways - eg: x++ or ++x. Putting the '++' after the variable means the variable is "looked at" before it's incremented. So, if Buffistas_Building_a_Better_Board = 1, and you have the expression y = Buffistas_Building_a_Better_Board++, y will = 1, as Buffistas_Building_a_Better_Board is not incremented to 2 until after y is assigned. OTOH, the expression y = ++Buffistas_Building_a_Better_Board will result in y=2 (as well as Buffistas_Building_a_Better_Board=2).

OK, that was way too much explanation, right?


amych - Jul 25, 2005 8:17:53 am PDT #27 of 4593
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

OK, that was way too much explanation, right?

Yep, and it also perfectly matches the explanation I was given of why it really ought to be ++C


Topic!Cindy - Jul 25, 2005 8:21:26 am PDT #28 of 4593
What is even happening?

There should be more math. This could be mathier.


tommyrot - Jul 25, 2005 8:22:09 am PDT #29 of 4593
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yep, and it also perfectly matches the explanation I was given of why it really ought to be ++C

OTOH, if the variable only needs to be incremented, not "looked at," then the convention seems to be putting the ++ after the variable - eg, for-next loops are usually done like this:

for(x = 1; x < 10; x++){
  blah blah;
}

eta: Don't ask me what "blah blah" does, or I shall be forced to make something up....


Laura - Jul 25, 2005 9:44:25 am PDT #30 of 4593
I didn't know how to respond to the bat-shit crazy. And then I realized I didn't have to. -Victor Infante

head explodes


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2005 9:57:49 am PDT #31 of 4593
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Unrelated to syntax, I have to say I hate the changes that mean a marked post is the first one displayed on the page. I liked being able to mark or unmark a post without changing what I'd "read" and what I hadn't "read." Same with blocking, etc.


Rob - Jul 25, 2005 10:12:30 am PDT #32 of 4593

Did we consider "Buffistas Building a Better Board += 1"? Actually, "Buffistas Building a Better Board << 1" would have been the nerdiest.

Edited because it's hard to type <.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 25, 2005 10:21:42 am PDT #33 of 4593
What is even happening?

Unrelated to syntax, I have to say I hate the changes that mean a marked post is the first one displayed on the page. I liked being able to mark or unmark a post without changing what I'd "read" and what I hadn't "read." Same with blocking, etc.

I would agree, except I hated much more what happened the old way. All my scrolling was undone, and I'd have to scroll back through what I'd already read, to find out where I was. If it could be leave me at the same point on the page, like a refresh does, I would like the old way better.