If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

Book ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kate P. - Aug 18, 2005 5:24:22 am PDT #9061 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Or, rather, I feel like -- I don't literally believe that there are pearly gates and Saint Peter and we have to defend the choices we made in our lives at the end, but I would like to live so as to have a good answer just in case it does happen. Does that make any sense?

Sure. I mean, I think I know what you're getting at, although I don't necessarily think of it that way myself. I remember my dad telling me that my grandfather--a devout Christian--had made peace long ago with the idea of a God who would judge him for his deeds, and that his lifetime of service to others had really had nothing to do with wanting to get into heaven, and had everything to do with wanting to do as much as he could for other people while he was here and had the chance to do it. I don't know if I'm explaining this very well, but that really struck me.

So for me, personally, what I want is to live the kind of life that I will be able to look back on at the end (hoping that I have that luxury) and think, I'm proud of the work that I did, because I did my best to help other people. In other words, God and St. Peter don't enter into it at all; the final judge of my life's work, as far as makes any difference to me, will be myself.

I've probably also been thinking about all of this a lot more lately because of my grandfather. Listening to everyone who spoke at his memorial service, friends and community members and church members and Habitat families, it really drove home the point that "all that matters is what we do".


§ ita § - Aug 18, 2005 5:27:42 am PDT #9062 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I sometimes find myself wishing that I could learn, well, pretty much anything there is to learn on the face of the world. But then, I would never get any time left to actually try to do something, so I don't know.

Oh, thank you. I'm bitter about not being omniscient, but you've painted a clear picture of a downside, so I'm going to try to be more zen about it.

Despite aforementioned bitterness, I really don't want to go to krav tonight. I so need an attitude adjustment¹. It's just that ... it was going to be a day off. I only get the two. And because my exercise alarm clock didn't go off, I'll be running tomorrow, which means no days without exercise this week.

¹: It's instructor training for brown belt, which is going to be hard and painful and tiring and I've been kinda avoiding taking brown belt for at least a year.


billytea - Aug 18, 2005 5:30:51 am PDT #9063 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

(And thanks, I'll try to threadsuck and look. I love the billytea way of describing billytea adventures, so I think it's pretty safe to assume I'll enjoy this one, as well.)

See, you say that, but have I seen you in the Bitches board? No. No, I have not.


Vortex - Aug 18, 2005 5:32:28 am PDT #9064 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

funny video

I can't afford my gasoline

which is ironic, considering that someone asked me to drive to Baltimore (an hour away) to take some students to a conference that has nothing to do with what I do. I was like 'you want me to spend half a tank of gas, in rush hour traffic and just sit around all day?"


Jesse - Aug 18, 2005 5:33:37 am PDT #9065 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'll be running tomorrow, which means no days without exercise this week.

Isn't that Not Recommended? Or do you figure you do enough different things that parts of you are not working so hard every day?


Frankenbuddha - Aug 18, 2005 5:34:46 am PDT #9066 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I sometimes find myself wishing that I could learn, well, pretty much anything there is to learn on the face of the world. But then, I would never get any time left to actually try to do something, so I don't know.

Oh, thank you. I'm bitter about not being omniscient, but you've painted a clear picture of a downside, so I'm going to try to be more zen about it.

There's also:

Pepperpot 1: How would Dr. (Memfaulting) know?

Pepperpot 2: He knows everything.

Pepperpot 1: Ooh, I wouldn't like that - it would take all the mystery out of life.

t /Python


§ ita § - Aug 18, 2005 5:36:40 am PDT #9067 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Isn't that Not Recommended? Or do you figure you do enough different things that parts of you are not working so hard every day?

The running is sufficiently different from the krav that I'm not worried about muscle groups or anything. I should rest, I know that, but I don't think this will break anything.

Ooh, I wouldn't like that - it would take all the mystery out of life

I was only planning to know the facts -- the mystery in life would be working out what to do with them.


Lyra Jane - Aug 18, 2005 5:39:01 am PDT #9068 of 10002
Up with the sun

what I want is to live the kind of life that I will be able to look back on at the end (hoping that I have that luxury) and think, I'm proud of the work that I did, because I did my best to help other people.

I think THAT's the same thing I'm trying to get at. I tend to want to bring in external judges/trust other people more than myself, but yeah, the goal is to live so that I am happy and proud at the end. I'm not sure I could say that now, if I got hit by a bus tomorrow.

(And I'm probably almost a third of the way through my life. Gyah. Need to work on this.)


Nilly - Aug 18, 2005 5:39:24 am PDT #9069 of 10002
Swouncing

it really drove home the point that "all that matters is what we do".

Kate, that's the way I see it, too. For me, of course, it's also about G*d and religion, but in the value of the things, in themselves, not because of any other thing. I'm not sur eI'm making any sort of sense. I remember thinking about this a lot after watching "Objects in Space" for the first time.

but have I seen you in the Bitches board? No. No, I have not.

I've read it! I didn't post there, it feels sort of like invading to someody else's playground, but I've read it! How can I prove it? Hmm. The word that comes to mind is "important".

I'm so happy that you're at this lovely stage of "in like", of getting to know that great new person, and feeling good about how that person gets to know you.

ita, um, khagora khooma! That said, is it possible to skip the running tomorrow, for the "day off" sake of it?

it would take all the mystery out of life.

There's always the discovery and invention of new things. [Edit: ita and I continue to share a brain regarding this.]


Jesse - Aug 18, 2005 5:39:54 am PDT #9070 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, and I am on a quest to know everything, as well as planning on doing Something Useful in my life. FYI.