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Snyder ,'Chosen'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


beth b - Jul 16, 2005 9:37:09 am PDT #554 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

DH and I have come to a tentative agreement- i won't tell him to clean - and he won't tell me. I do most of it - because I am home more. It doesn't mean I don't have a list of things to get done- which we both work off of, or that he doesn't try and convince me to help him with the dishes - but the right to refuse is there. I think if we had kids things would have to be more formal. Ihave friends with a daughter - she is twelAt this point in her life she can't do any type of domestic chore. I think it is bad to make a kid sort of helpless in the basic things like cleaning and cooking. they could end up like Sean and eat moldy rice out of a tube.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 16, 2005 9:39:34 am PDT #555 of 10002
What is even happening?

well it's either clean the garage or clean the closet.

Those aren't happy choices. Unless you were being funny about closet, in which case, I laugh, but with you, not at you, because you should get to read your book. I never laugh when people don't get to read their books, unless it's my kids, because they've had a huge, negative impact on my reading life.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 16, 2005 9:41:36 am PDT #556 of 10002
What is even happening?

I have friends with a daughter - she is twelAt this point in her life she can't do any type of domestic chore. I think it is bad to make a kid sort of helpless in the basic things like cleaning and cooking. they could end up like Sean and eat moldy rice out of a tube.
My kids all make their beds (I am not fussy about it, though, but it has to look like they tried their best); put their breakfast and lunch dishes in the sink, clean up their toys, and sometimes, help me put laundry away (I fold, and call each one as their clothes piles build up). They are 5, 6 and 9.

Oh, they also set the table.


Scrappy - Jul 16, 2005 9:42:23 am PDT #557 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Kat, did you get yours from UPS? Because I am waiting for mine and they usually deliver stuff in the afternoon, so if they have delivered yours it gives me hope. It's gonna be 96 out today and BF has a writing gig and I want to stay in and read, gosh darn it. BRING MY BOOK!


brenda m - Jul 16, 2005 9:45:23 am PDT #558 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Fuck fuck fuck. My A/C unit is off, and I can't figure out the problem. I don't think it's a fuse - I tried other things in the same outlet with no problem.


Steph L. - Jul 16, 2005 9:53:15 am PDT #559 of 10002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Kat, did you get yours from UPS? Because I am waiting for mine and they usually deliver stuff in the afternoon, so if they have delivered yours it gives me hope.

Robin, I'm pretty sure UPS won't be delivering them today -- I read an article that said that online retailers like Amazon had arranged a partnership between UPS and the USPS, b/c UPS's weekend delivery charges are too high.

Basically, UPS was going to deliver assloads of the (pre-packed and addressed) books to local USPSs yesterday, who would then deliver the books today.

I'm not saying this is the case with everyone who ordered online, particularly if you paid for UPS weekend delivery, but for people who selected regular delivery, it seems likely.


beth b - Jul 16, 2005 9:55:06 am PDT #560 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

see - you are doing it right Cindy. - your kids all ready know that everyone in the house is supposed to help.


Jessica - Jul 16, 2005 9:55:34 am PDT #561 of 10002
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Robin, I'm pretty sure UPS won't be delivering them today -- I read an article that said that online retailers like Amazon had arranged a partnership between UPS and the USPS, b/c UPS's weekend delivery charges are too high.

Except my regular mail's already come and gone, and UPS has a tracking # for my order. Hmmm....

Honestly, at this point, it's more about getting the damn book so I can get out of the house than getting it so I can read it right away. Maybe I'll just go out anyway, and if we miss delivery, DH can sign for it on Monday.


Scrappy - Jul 16, 2005 9:57:08 am PDT #562 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Thanks, Tep. Although our mail doesn't usually get here until 4, so I guess waiting is in order.

:: trembling lip and longing gaze out of window


Kat - Jul 16, 2005 9:57:55 am PDT #563 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Kat, did you get yours from UPS?

Nope, sorry. I preordered one at Vroman's in Pasadena. They had a big to-do last night, which I did not attend because large groups late at night? NSM fun.

But we went this AM (large party also from 8-9) and it was easy peasy to get it. It was literally pick up a book and took less than 2 minutes. For book 7, I"m going to order from them again.