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'Serenity'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jul 16, 2005 9:53:15 am PDT #559 of 10002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Kat, did you get yours from UPS? Because I am waiting for mine and they usually deliver stuff in the afternoon, so if they have delivered yours it gives me hope.

Robin, I'm pretty sure UPS won't be delivering them today -- I read an article that said that online retailers like Amazon had arranged a partnership between UPS and the USPS, b/c UPS's weekend delivery charges are too high.

Basically, UPS was going to deliver assloads of the (pre-packed and addressed) books to local USPSs yesterday, who would then deliver the books today.

I'm not saying this is the case with everyone who ordered online, particularly if you paid for UPS weekend delivery, but for people who selected regular delivery, it seems likely.


beth b - Jul 16, 2005 9:55:06 am PDT #560 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

see - you are doing it right Cindy. - your kids all ready know that everyone in the house is supposed to help.


Jessica - Jul 16, 2005 9:55:34 am PDT #561 of 10002
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Robin, I'm pretty sure UPS won't be delivering them today -- I read an article that said that online retailers like Amazon had arranged a partnership between UPS and the USPS, b/c UPS's weekend delivery charges are too high.

Except my regular mail's already come and gone, and UPS has a tracking # for my order. Hmmm....

Honestly, at this point, it's more about getting the damn book so I can get out of the house than getting it so I can read it right away. Maybe I'll just go out anyway, and if we miss delivery, DH can sign for it on Monday.


Scrappy - Jul 16, 2005 9:57:08 am PDT #562 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Thanks, Tep. Although our mail doesn't usually get here until 4, so I guess waiting is in order.

:: trembling lip and longing gaze out of window


Kat - Jul 16, 2005 9:57:55 am PDT #563 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Kat, did you get yours from UPS?

Nope, sorry. I preordered one at Vroman's in Pasadena. They had a big to-do last night, which I did not attend because large groups late at night? NSM fun.

But we went this AM (large party also from 8-9) and it was easy peasy to get it. It was literally pick up a book and took less than 2 minutes. For book 7, I"m going to order from them again.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 16, 2005 10:00:36 am PDT #564 of 10002
What is even happening?

It's kind of sad to think she's 12 and doesn't know how to do anything. Like you said, that's the path to rice in a tube living. My kids love to help me cook, but it's not a lot of help, if you know what I mean.

beth, is the little girl an only child? I do know my mother did a lot for me, like laundry--particularly, because if she was throwing on her stuff and my dad's, it was just as easy to throw mine in, too. I wonder if they just don't think of it, because it seems so small.

That said, I'm an only and I always had chores. I had to dust every Saturday, for as long as I can remember. I had to make my bed, change my sheets. By the time I was 12, I was the one putting on supper as often as not, because my mother was back to work full time, by then. I had to clean the kitchen, vacuum, and pick up, before she got home. She was *really* cranky when she came home from work. Now, I understand why. Then, it used to bother me/piss me off.


beth b - Jul 16, 2005 10:06:39 am PDT #565 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

yes, she is an only. Really sweet, good tempered ,etc. Mom and dad don't have her do the dishes because she does a bad job. I kind of understand what has happened, because - she is an only and an easy child too. I think they should have her start with some cooking - because she is the world's pickiest eater. I think learning to cook will either a) expand her tastes if only a little bit or b) ensure that she can at least cook the things she likes to eat.

I do not want to go to work. I wish to steal HP from DH and sit and read with a fan blowing on me. If I can't do that I want to read my cheesy book on the Loch Ness monster while DH reads HP . so I can have it tomorrow.

ps why is my typing worse than usual?


Calli - Jul 16, 2005 10:18:18 am PDT #566 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I was the younger of two daughters, and the more into house stuff. (Mostly so I wouldn't have to go out where the other kids were, because they sucked.) So I learned how to clean, cook, sew a little, do laundry, etc. My sister learned as little of that as she could get away with.

Twenty years later my sister's the one with the house, husband, and kids, cleaning every weekend, making meals every night, and doing laundry all. the. time. (Seriously, it's like the dryer is on all the time when I visit.) I live in an apartment that was vacuumed a week ago, dusted some time in May, and dinner will probably involve either pizza or something currently in a box in the freezer. Or perhaps the rest of the Ben & Jerry's Dublin Mudslide ice cream that I'm currently eating, except I doubt any will be left then. I can clean. I can cook pretty durned well, if I do say so myself. But I rarely have to.


Volans - Jul 16, 2005 10:21:32 am PDT #567 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Huh. I was an only child (half-sister is 21 years older), and by the time I was 8 I was doing everyone's laundry and the dishes. And the dusting. And a few other chores. Was main cook by 14, but that's another story.


§ ita § - Jul 16, 2005 11:05:02 am PDT #568 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Most of my childhood I didn't have any chores beyond not making my room nasty (we had a maid for the time we were in Jamaica). Even in England, I didn't have to do anything.

Magically, however, at university I started doing all my chores, and apart from a few bleach spills (I just bleach less these days), never had a problem with any of it. Everything was either detailed in instructions, or common sense.