Hey, if it means I don't have to read any more, woo and, might I add, a big hoo.

Xander ,'Sleeper'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Rick - Aug 02, 2005 12:54:34 pm PDT #5141 of 10002

Wow. I mean, that's a lot of balls, right there. What's their response been to the lack of supporting evidence?

Madrigal hinted at it. Conservative "research institutes" produce studies that support the efficacy of prayer. These studies are laboriously debunked by other scientists. Conservatives say "Some studies support it, some don't support it" and imply that this reflects poorly on science itself.


Sean K - Aug 02, 2005 12:54:37 pm PDT #5142 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Nah, they're just louder.

Fair point (as was discussed earlier). Though Teh Craxy still seems as common as rocks.


Daisy Jane - Aug 02, 2005 12:54:44 pm PDT #5143 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

One of the professors at my college was asked by the Freedom people to review the bible course in Texas. He's pretty much said it's a bunch of propagandist hooey, and I'm inclined to believe him. His course was a anthropology/history/literature course on the bible, and from what I know very enlightening and engaging.

I've had a loooong week. Wednesday we worked on the siding for the house, in the rain, under the eaves. I still feel mildewy.

Thursday was a very. odd. day. I volunteered for a workshop sponsored by Planned Parenthood. A bunch of agencies get together (like Girls Inc., shelters, and youth homes) and their kids sign up for different classes. I was a monitor for one about body image and self esteem. There were others on the dangers of drugs, safe sex, birth control, career planning, etc. all things that are pretty important particularly to at-risk kids.

(Just to veer off on a tangent for a moment, if I may, I was at happy hour the day before this event, and a close friend's husband had just related to her that a 17 year old at the store he manages came to him upset because she'd taken a pregnancy test that showed positive, and she didn't understand how that could be because she'd peed right after. Even if the whole workshop was sex education, I'm going to say that might be a good thing).

Anyway, we were expecting protesters, and there they were with their signs saying "STOP Planned Promiscuity" and "Planned Parenthood Steals Souls." There was even a guy with a guitar. It was all a bit cheesy and a bit eye-rolly, but y'know, free speech and all.

However, through some miscommunication, the entrance for the kids wasn't open and they had to come in through another side of the building. The protesters moved over there. One woman had a camera and another (or perhaps the same one) had a video camera and started taking pictures of the kids. To my mind, that's crossing a line. Not only because they're minors, but they're also minors with possible history of abuse. One of the girls who came into our class that morning was pretty shooken up. Horrible. I wonder if that woman went home thinking she did a good thing.

On a more uplifting note, Saturday was the dedication for the house we've been working on. So, yay new homeowners!

I hate just bopping in and out of here, but I've been really busy and Thursday put a real damper on my wanting to interact with other people.


Jessica - Aug 02, 2005 12:57:04 pm PDT #5144 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't help but think that their type is as least as common, if not moreso, than the non-craxy types.

I tend to think this too, but I have to take into account that I am always surprised when I find out that people* are religious. Always. The inside of my head is atheonormative**, no matter what the world is actually like.

* For values of people not wearing tefillin or a habit or otherwise obvious religious indicators.

** Which I hereby claim to be a real word. Someone else use it in a sentence and email it to erinaceous!


Wolfram - Aug 02, 2005 12:58:08 pm PDT #5145 of 10002
Visilurking

Depending on how it's done, I don't really get skeeved if someone tries to proselytize me on the metro or on the street. I mean, they figure they're getting points like on the Serenity board. Religion is the world's oldest fandom. Can't blame them for trying to share the love.

As long as they understand and respect what "not interested" means.


Sean K - Aug 02, 2005 12:59:52 pm PDT #5146 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

atheonormative**

The word atheonormative R0X0R5!


Sue - Aug 02, 2005 1:01:20 pm PDT #5147 of 10002
hip deep in pie

There are reports that everyone on the plane survived, but they're not confirmed. They are talking to suvivors on the news. From their reports, it seems the plane landed okay, but then couldn't brake.


Lee - Aug 02, 2005 1:02:40 pm PDT #5148 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

So lovely it hurts.

Very nice. You want I should pray reallly hard that the price will go down?

ION, I look like half a chipmunk. If I weren't me, I'd be laughing at myself by now.


Allyson - Aug 02, 2005 1:03:13 pm PDT #5149 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I mean, they figure they're getting points like on the Serenity board.

Oddly, I have 690 points suddenly, for no apparent reason. I should have 400,396,152,698, but you know, I'm not complaining.

Wait, yeah. I'm complaining.


Wolfram - Aug 02, 2005 1:06:22 pm PDT #5150 of 10002
Visilurking

I should have 400,396,152,698, but you know...

That would get you, what, a key chain?