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Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Aug 02, 2005 8:30:53 am PDT #4891 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

We read Genesis in English class. To discuss it as literature.

We were also required by law to be taught creationism alongside evolution, but my biology teacher scoffed at that law. And then left teaching to enter a seminary.


Gudanov - Aug 02, 2005 8:31:37 am PDT #4892 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

If there is a chunk of kids who want to learn about the Bible in a literature context

I think it's okay in a literature context, but it sounds like the Texas program crosses over into endorsement.


askye - Aug 02, 2005 8:31:38 am PDT #4893 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

In middle school in one world history class we learned about Islam. We studied it for quite a while, I remember trying to memorize the five pillars of Islam.

It wasn't being taught as a religon though, not with the idea of conversion and saying this is the only way. We were studying it as part of history and culture so we could better understand the time period and the people. Mom's still pissed about this, but I never had a problem with it.

What I did have a problem with was in high school being made to feel guilty because I didn't participate in some morning prayer around the flag pole. The prayer thing wasn't required by school, but the kids who were doing it tried to make the rest of us feel guilty.


Betsy HP - Aug 02, 2005 8:34:00 am PDT #4894 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

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Aims - Aug 02, 2005 8:34:38 am PDT #4895 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Alas, that isn't what the parents I was dealing with wanted. They didn't see the difference between the class reading a book that had some elements of paganism in it and teaching paganism as the One True Path.

t whaps idiot parents


Gudanov - Aug 02, 2005 8:36:43 am PDT #4896 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

They didn't see the difference between the class reading a book that had some elements of paganism in it and teaching paganism as the One True Path.

Quite a while ago I was in a bookstore, checking out the Sci-Fi/Fantasy section and there were a group of people there looking at a JRR Tolkein book and commented on what a sick twisted mind could produce all this anti-christian stuff.


Jesse - Aug 02, 2005 8:37:20 am PDT #4897 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

What I did have a problem with was in high school being made to feel guilty because I didn't participate in some morning prayer around the flag pole. The prayer thing wasn't required by school, but the kids who were doing it tried to make the rest of us feel guilty.

Wow, that's real? I am again reminded that I don't live in America.


Cashmere - Aug 02, 2005 8:37:34 am PDT #4898 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

We read Genesis in English class. To discuss it as literature.

I had some of this in a college English class. Very interestingly taught by an excellent professor. But there were a few awkward moments during the first class when he explained we were studying it as literature and not as the Word of God. A student excused herself because she said she took the bible literally word for word and couldn't accept that it was being taught otherwise.


bon bon - Aug 02, 2005 8:37:51 am PDT #4899 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Hell, I have an otherwise well-educated teen cousin who thought Adam and Eve were Jesus' parents. It's an odd sort of educational avoidance, that.

OMG, I was so confused about how dinosaurs and Adam and Eve (and maybe something stupid like the Pilgrims) fit together. Relatedly, it was an embarrassingly long time before I figured out how cells fit in with atoms.


Cashmere - Aug 02, 2005 8:38:39 am PDT #4900 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Quite a while ago I was in a bookstore, checking out the Sci-Fi/Fantasy section and there were a group of people there looking at a JRR Tolkein book and commented on what a sick twisted mind could produce all this anti-christian stuff.

How do people this stupid even find the bookstore?