It's a real burden being right so often.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2005 8:02:49 am PDT #4863 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

::throws out all Liz Claiborne stuff::

::has exactly the same amount of stuff she had ten minutes ago::


Nutty - Aug 02, 2005 8:04:24 am PDT #4864 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

1. Is Liz Claiborne actually a person? For that matter, Yves Saint Laurent? (I know about Coco Chanel.)

2. People who believe that major corporations would actually put "devil worship" in a line-item budget need to be beaten with an old-time mechanical calculator. You put that expense under "Travel and Entertainment."


Nora Deirdre - Aug 02, 2005 8:05:48 am PDT #4865 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I don't know about Liz Claiborn, but FYI, Estee Lauder was an actual person, now deceased.


Jesse - Aug 02, 2005 8:06:09 am PDT #4866 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yes, Liz Claiborne is a real person, but she is no longer associated with the company. Here's the Snopes thing about the similar P&G story with a mention of LC: [link]


Connie Neil - Aug 02, 2005 8:09:14 am PDT #4867 of 10002
brillig

So, you're saying, now is the time to investigate my opportunities in the growing field of confidence swindling??

Come to Utah for your training, we lead the country in personal fraud. We've made great strides, though, mortgage fraud, going from first in the rankings to sixth.


Rick - Aug 02, 2005 8:09:15 am PDT #4868 of 10002

It's easy to convince people there are no biological precursors to eyes (even though there ARE)-- they seem to be willing to believe that if they don't know about it it must not exist.

Yes, in recent years there have been elegant studies in developmental genetics showing how simple mechanisms can assemble into something like an eye, or how a slight change in the protein produced by a gene can change scales into feathers. The core of "Intelligent Design" is the idea of irreducible complexity, but no such thing has been found in biology. Proponents of the ID are either ignorant or they are liars or they are both.

Made my chiro appointment for today, and cancelled the ortho. I need my spine cracked something awful. I don't know what's happening to my skeleton, but my joints are very cranky recently.

ita illustrates the other big problem with Intelligent Design: all known species are filled with unintelligent design that betrays their inefficient evolutionary history. It is obvious that humans, for instance, were not designed to walk upright, although some last-minute biological jury-rigging allows us to do so. If species were created by an intelligent designer, it must have been an intelligent designer on crack.


Gudanov - Aug 02, 2005 8:11:29 am PDT #4869 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Also, why would an Intelligent Design just muck around with single cell organisms for billions of years?


-t - Aug 02, 2005 8:11:30 am PDT #4870 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Liz probably just made a pledge during a Devil Worship Telethon and it's all gotten blown out of proportion.

I think there's some evidence that humans more readily believe anecdotal evidence than statistical. Say what you like about seatbelts saving lives, but my uncle's friend's cousin who was thrown clear of the car that burst into flames because he wasn't wearing his seatbelt is more convincing.


Nora Deirdre - Aug 02, 2005 8:12:30 am PDT #4871 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

§ ita § - Aug 02, 2005 8:13:22 am PDT #4872 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

why would an Intelligent Design just muck around with single cell organisms for billions of years?

Quest for perfection.

ita illustrates the other big problem with Intelligent Design

You have no idea how often I hear this.