I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 31, 2005 5:48:53 pm PDT #4513 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I liked Spiderman 2 better than the first one, but I found some huge flaws in it that stand apart from my lack of affection for the character -- just some admission of the fact that the issues that bother him at the start of the movie are mostly unresolved at the end. I thought that dissatisfying.


Kat - Jul 31, 2005 5:51:30 pm PDT #4514 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

It's painfully difficult for me to watch. I liked the first one so much more.

What did you like about the second one?


Susan W. - Jul 31, 2005 5:52:57 pm PDT #4515 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

My worst insect experience involved falling off my bike and landing with my ankle in a fire ant bed. I don't think we even tried to count the individual stings, but it swelled up like a bad sprain.


msbelle - Jul 31, 2005 5:55:37 pm PDT #4516 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

manboobs.


§ ita § - Jul 31, 2005 5:58:16 pm PDT #4517 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What did you like about the second one?

I hated the first one a lot, and that's why I liked the second one better. It's pretty faint praise, and I can't remember the details of the first to be able to explain how the second failed me less.


DavidS - Jul 31, 2005 6:44:51 pm PDT #4518 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Kat, I can't belive you're hating Spider-Man 2 - I thought it was much better than the first one, and I liked the first one fine.

Molina is a much better, more complex and interesting villain. And I thought Peter Parker's life was grounded in reality so that you understood the sacrifices he made to do the right thing. I think it's the best comic book movie that's been made.


Beverly - Jul 31, 2005 6:47:25 pm PDT #4519 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I kept getting stung repeatedly one year on vacation when I was about 12. Oddly, it only happened when I wore one particular shirt.

Bees will attack a "black bag", which is, appropriately enough, a bag made of black cloth and stuffed with sand or rice or something fairly weighty, that's hung near their hive. They will also attack, somewhat less fiercely, a white bag. Behaviorists speculate that black and white are colors of bee colonies main predators, thus the colors are hardwired into the tiny bee brain as "enemy! attack!" So if your shirt was black or white Fred, this may be why you got stung while wearing it.

Also, wasps and yellowjackets, both members of the hornet family, are attracted to floral prints, because they prey on the insects that eat leaves and drink the nectar.

I have a severe localized allergy to stings, and have done much research to figure out what not to do to keep from getting stung. The next one could cause an anaphylactic reaction...or not. No way of knowing, the doctor said, and I'd really just as soon not find out.


Kat - Jul 31, 2005 6:50:07 pm PDT #4520 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Huh.

I find the acting really flat. The lines are either delivered as heroic homily or with the premonition that it is supposed to be a Big Thing.

I thought some of the CGI was really poorly done.

And it was just too long, bloated and boring.

And, weirdly, what it does do for me is point out how much more enjoyable Batman Begins was, even though it made my ass fall asleep with length.

And I agree with msbelle. I don't want to see Molina shirtless EVER again.


DavidS - Jul 31, 2005 6:51:34 pm PDT #4521 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I thought some of the CGI was really poorly done.

Ten times better than the first one, which got thoroughly slagged for it's poor CGI compared to the competition (like X-2).


§ ita § - Jul 31, 2005 6:58:28 pm PDT #4522 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The idea that Parker has problems with school, money and women at the start, and at the end only has problems with school and money and we're supposed to see it as a victory makes my eyes roll. At least I wanted to see the "I will always have problems with school and money" epiphany. I felt it was all "Got the girl! Happily ever after!"

I also didn't like some of the mechanisms -- the eyesight thing bothered me, and I really hoped the musical montagey thing was a dream sequence. Because it was beyond cheesey.