She's not just a blob of energy, she's also a 14-year-old hormone bomb.

Spike ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Jul 27, 2005 8:03:21 am PDT #3249 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The local radio station occasionally plays their "small print" addendum to their prize package list; after they mention that all prizes valued over $600 (I think) are subject to tax, they say, "Don't forget--Uncle Sam knows who you are, and where you live."


Gudanov - Jul 27, 2005 8:06:07 am PDT #3250 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

The figure I've seen for the estate tax revenue is $290 billion over the next 10 years. If the tax is repealed, then where does that money come from? Raise the income tax?, Cut Medicaid?, Just add it to the debt?


Kathy A - Jul 27, 2005 8:06:52 am PDT #3251 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I suppose it would be easy for the government to never know about it if I didn't declare the gift as income on my taxes.

Exactly why my grandmother spent the last few years of her life parceling out the family treasures, well, that and she didn't want arguing between family members over who gets what. My mom is still pissed that my cousin managed to talk Gramma into giving him the Victrola, though--she'd had her eye on it since long before he was born.


flea - Jul 27, 2005 8:07:40 am PDT #3252 of 10002
information libertarian

Where I work, if an employee wins a $10 gift certificate in a "morale boosting ceremony" it's subject to tax. I know because I have to get the person's social security number and put it in the system, so it gets reported to the Feds.


bon bon - Jul 27, 2005 8:16:04 am PDT #3253 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Since I figure an inheritence is just a gift you get when the giver is beyond having a use for it, I'm not seeing the difference an estate tax makes, aside from lower exempted amounts for gifts from live folks.

Like I say, the gift only gets taxed once. You get to claim whatever the giver paid for it as the "basis", or basically the cost of the gift, and it's not taxable to you. But you would have to pay any capital gains if you ever sold it. An estate tax makes the entire fair market value of the estate taxable at transfer. So,

I give you a house while I'm alive. I paid $50,000 for it, now it's worth $400,000. OK, fine. When you sell it, (for 400K) you owe taxes on the gains realized, which is $350,000. That's ok, you can pay the money out of your gains, and that $50K investment is only taxed once.

I give you a house when I die. I paid $50,000 for it, now it's worth $400,000. You pay estate taxes on $400,000 now, and that $50K is taxed twice, by virtue of me dying.


Jesse - Jul 27, 2005 8:16:47 am PDT #3254 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ha, flea. That's classic.

When I left a job years ago, the big boss decided to give me a nice bonus as a going away present, but didn't mention it to the accountant until after. So I got a round-number hand-written check, but then nearly all of my last paycheck was taken away by the taxes on the bonus check.


tommyrot - Jul 27, 2005 8:17:29 am PDT #3255 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I give you a house when I die. I paid $50,000 for it, now it's worth $400,000. You pay estate taxes on $400,000 now.

'Cept it's under the 1 million (or whatever) limit, so you'd pay no taxes. Or am I missing something?


tommyrot - Jul 27, 2005 8:18:21 am PDT #3256 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

From Wired:

Polly Want a ... What?
If you need proof that we are all a product of our environment, look no further than Barney, a 5-year-old Macaw who swears like a lorry driver. Which figures, because Barney, who now resides at a sanctuary in central England, once belonged to a lorry driver. Although workers at Warwickshire Animal Sanctuary have tried to break Barney of his habit, the stream of invective continues. "He's told a lady mayoress to f... off and he told a lady vicar: 'And you can f... off as well,'" sanctuary worker Stacey Clark said. Barney didn't hold back when it came to a couple of visiting cops, either. "He told them: 'And you can f... off, you two wankers.'"


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 8:18:22 am PDT #3257 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think picking your nose at work should not be done.


DavidS - Jul 27, 2005 8:20:41 am PDT #3258 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think picking your nose at work should not be done.

Whoa! That's quite a stand to take.