...because God knows you need some satisfaction in life besides shagging Captain Cardboard! And I never really liked you anyway. And you have stupid hair!

Spike ,'Selfless'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jul 27, 2005 8:16:47 am PDT #3254 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ha, flea. That's classic.

When I left a job years ago, the big boss decided to give me a nice bonus as a going away present, but didn't mention it to the accountant until after. So I got a round-number hand-written check, but then nearly all of my last paycheck was taken away by the taxes on the bonus check.


tommyrot - Jul 27, 2005 8:17:29 am PDT #3255 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I give you a house when I die. I paid $50,000 for it, now it's worth $400,000. You pay estate taxes on $400,000 now.

'Cept it's under the 1 million (or whatever) limit, so you'd pay no taxes. Or am I missing something?


tommyrot - Jul 27, 2005 8:18:21 am PDT #3256 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

From Wired:

Polly Want a ... What?
If you need proof that we are all a product of our environment, look no further than Barney, a 5-year-old Macaw who swears like a lorry driver. Which figures, because Barney, who now resides at a sanctuary in central England, once belonged to a lorry driver. Although workers at Warwickshire Animal Sanctuary have tried to break Barney of his habit, the stream of invective continues. "He's told a lady mayoress to f... off and he told a lady vicar: 'And you can f... off as well,'" sanctuary worker Stacey Clark said. Barney didn't hold back when it came to a couple of visiting cops, either. "He told them: 'And you can f... off, you two wankers.'"


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 8:18:22 am PDT #3257 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think picking your nose at work should not be done.


DavidS - Jul 27, 2005 8:20:41 am PDT #3258 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think picking your nose at work should not be done.

Whoa! That's quite a stand to take.


sumi - Jul 27, 2005 8:20:56 am PDT #3259 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

ION, a friend sent me this link to an edible books festival. Check out the gallery!


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 8:23:29 am PDT #3260 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's quite a stand to take.

I'm all about the controversial positions.

I wonder if I can prevent her from ever using my keyboard. Or phone.

Or air.


bon bon - Jul 27, 2005 8:27:25 am PDT #3261 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

'Cept it's under the 1 million (or whatever) limit, so you'd pay no taxes. Or am I missing something?

I'm just pulling numbers out of the air to make the difference clear. Technically none of this is applicable now, because estate taxes are not operable. The thrust of the argument being that the current tax system-- that cap gains tax is paid when the gain is realized, not at the death of the donor-- is not some kind of scam that lets people get away with not paying taxes.

The figure I've seen for the estate tax revenue is $290 billion over the next 10 years. If the tax is repealed, then where does that money come from? Raise the income tax?, Cut Medicaid?, Just add it to the debt?

Where does that money come from (it's not coming now, there's no estate tax)? I'm not sure how to answer this. First, it will still be collected through the capital gains tax. Or through increasing top level income taxes, cutting expenses or increasing the deficit. I mean, I could just as well suggest increasing the effective tax rate on people who make between $300K to $350K, calculate how much that will get the government and then ask where that money will come from if it's not increased.


DXMachina - Jul 27, 2005 8:31:07 am PDT #3262 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

The figure I've seen for the estate tax revenue is $290 billion over the next 10 years. If the tax is repealed, then where does that money come from? Raise the income tax?, Cut Medicaid?, Just add it to the debt?

I know this is crazy talk, but I suppose we could, you know, stop trying to conquer Iraq. That'd save a dollar or two.


DavidS - Jul 27, 2005 8:31:18 am PDT #3263 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So, bon, how do the tax laws apply to Teppy's primal fear of inheriting her father's debt?