Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Jul 23, 2005 9:04:54 pm PDT #2433 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

For a response from the scientist themselves go to this blog run by some of our leading climate scientists.

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I've been in a rage on this particular issue for the last two years ever since I began work on a book about the subject. Though this is not the only area in which routine supression of science takes place, it is one of the most deadly. In a way it is like Holocaust denial, since unchecked global warming will kill as many people or more than the Holocaust did. In a way it is worse, because Holocaust denial dishonors the dead, but global warming denial helps those murders take place.


libkitty - Jul 23, 2005 9:06:02 pm PDT #2434 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

An ice cream place (or, I should the ice cream place) here sometimes has licorice ice cream. I think it's pretty popular. Everyone I know loves it. Except for me. I hate black licorice.

Re: the scientists. Can they really ask for personal financial information? I mean, isn't that just ridiculous?!


Typo Boy - Jul 23, 2005 9:08:23 pm PDT #2435 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

So far they have asked not used subpoenas. If they choose to Congress has pretty much unlimited powers of subpoena.


Beverly - Jul 23, 2005 9:14:06 pm PDT #2436 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Typo and tommy, I share your rage. But nobody is ever going to change these people's minds. Half of them think it's their job to hasten the end of the world, and the other half don't care, as long as they've gotten rich, lived the high life and died before the global environmental consequences kick in.


libkitty - Jul 23, 2005 9:17:06 pm PDT #2437 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I should have read more before responding about the global warming.

Now, I just have to say, what idiots! My opinion, should anyone care, is that no matter what the reason for the existence of global warming, the real question is what can we do about it. And should anyone have any doubts about global warming, they should just visit Alaska.

On the bright side, I'm in the perfect location for everyone's vacation to the cool. Actually, in a few years we may rival the Riviera. No wonder no one can afford a house here.


Typo Boy - Jul 23, 2005 9:18:30 pm PDT #2438 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Oh I don't want to change their minds. I want to kick their asses (politically - since they are politician not scientists - especially the ones such as Singer who pretend to be scientists.)


tommyrot - Jul 23, 2005 9:47:52 pm PDT #2439 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh I don't want to change their minds. I want to kick their asses

I don't so much want to change their minds or kick their asses as much as I want then to Stop. Fucking. Shit. Up. Which will probably require kicking their asses - at least electorally.


Kat - Jul 23, 2005 11:23:13 pm PDT #2440 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

The black licorice ice cream freaked me out. It's 1:00 AM and 71 degrees with 76 % humidity. This sucks.


Trudy Booth - Jul 24, 2005 12:17:28 am PDT #2441 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Anyone awake?


billytea - Jul 24, 2005 12:42:47 am PDT #2442 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Anyone awake?

Yes!