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Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Jul 20, 2005 3:41:20 pm PDT #1654 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I think I was using it as a reason why the girl raped by her stepfather isn't left in the dark.

Ah. Statutory rape and rape by stepfather are not the exact same thing.

I'm now looking up what else I'm supposed to be reporting.

Another teacher and I were just talking about all the things we do observe that we never report to the parent, in part because school life is, in adolescence, a place where students can try things on, practice decisions and it should be separate from what I am bound to tell parents.

And frankly, most kids won't talk to their parents, but they will talk to other adults,, even techers. And I like to hold that info in trust if I can for as much as I can. Though there are things I do tell parents.


Allyson - Jul 20, 2005 3:41:26 pm PDT #1655 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Cindy, I don't think you can equate being 13 with being drunk or high on ludes and be serious.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 20, 2005 3:44:19 pm PDT #1656 of 10002
What is even happening?

Allyson, I am not equating them. I am saying there are laws that state that certain people are unable to give consent.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 20, 2005 3:49:13 pm PDT #1657 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I am 32 years old and the thought of telling my mother that I was a) pregnant and b) had an abortion BEFORE it was done with makes me sure that I, like Allyson, would try a coat hanger. My mom is a great person, and fair to middling parent, and completely non-abusive.

She also flips out into a dizzying mental spin, vocalizing ALL my inner worries over and over and over. She doesn't know I have a new job and won't until my first day in the office, because her response would be "What if your old boss sabotages you? remember, you won't be safe until you are in the new office. The new office could be just as bad as the old one. Aren't you worried?!?"

And she has always been like this-- about college, about wearing a bra, about taking the SAT's. The thought of someone else telling her and having to go through that while pregnant/deciding to abort... AARgh! So not abusive doesn't mean helpful in the least.

ETA: Also not a parent, because I would be like the above.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 20, 2005 3:55:33 pm PDT #1658 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Also, on a lighter note-- Do Gale Harold and Nathon Fillion resemble each other in a weird way? I am attracted to Gale Harold (or rather Brian Kinney), but not so much to Mal, but in my head they look so similar!


Lyra Jane - Jul 20, 2005 3:57:51 pm PDT #1659 of 10002
Up with the sun

I would NEVER think to report statutory rape. I know I need to report abuse, but I don't know where statutory rape is.

Never at all? What would you do if the situation was more worrisome than usual -- e.g., if the child was especially young, physically or emotionally, or you weren't sure that the relationship was consensual? I understand it's not your job to monitor the sex lives of every student in the high school -- the blanket "NEVER" just surprises me.


Jesse - Jul 20, 2005 4:02:19 pm PDT #1660 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Is it statutory rape if both people are under the age of consent? Whose fault is it then? Just curious.


Sue - Jul 20, 2005 4:04:23 pm PDT #1661 of 10002
hip deep in pie

The same sex marriage bill in Canada has been given Royal Assent and now is law of the land:

[link]


libkitty - Jul 20, 2005 4:05:15 pm PDT #1662 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

The current discussion on parental notification is fascinating, with well thought-out and heartfelt opinions on both sides. I love that we can discuss a topic like this without all stomping off to our rooms. And if it does come to that, can come back the next day. I hate to just in with another topic, but am doing a quick post'n'run.

the assistant directer of my library claims that an MLS is the most expensive Union Card you'll ever buy.

Calli, and anyone else that expressed interest, I attended Syracuse about 6 years ago for my MLS, and it was the best decision I ever made. I learned a lot of helpful, practical stuff, even after having worked in libraries for years. I would love to talk further with anyone who wants to about library school, pros and cons of various schools, and librarianship once you have the degree. The money's not the best in librarianship, but it's a wonderful career. Fun, interesting and worthwhile.

Anyway, I'm already late, but feel free to email me.


lori - Jul 20, 2005 4:05:57 pm PDT #1663 of 10002

The same sex marriage bill in Canada has been given Royal Assent and now is law of the land:

YAY Canadia!