Book: Captain, you mind if I say grace? Mal: Only if you say it out loud.

'Serenity'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jul 20, 2005 4:02:19 pm PDT #1660 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Is it statutory rape if both people are under the age of consent? Whose fault is it then? Just curious.


Sue - Jul 20, 2005 4:04:23 pm PDT #1661 of 10002
hip deep in pie

The same sex marriage bill in Canada has been given Royal Assent and now is law of the land:

[link]


libkitty - Jul 20, 2005 4:05:15 pm PDT #1662 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

The current discussion on parental notification is fascinating, with well thought-out and heartfelt opinions on both sides. I love that we can discuss a topic like this without all stomping off to our rooms. And if it does come to that, can come back the next day. I hate to just in with another topic, but am doing a quick post'n'run.

the assistant directer of my library claims that an MLS is the most expensive Union Card you'll ever buy.

Calli, and anyone else that expressed interest, I attended Syracuse about 6 years ago for my MLS, and it was the best decision I ever made. I learned a lot of helpful, practical stuff, even after having worked in libraries for years. I would love to talk further with anyone who wants to about library school, pros and cons of various schools, and librarianship once you have the degree. The money's not the best in librarianship, but it's a wonderful career. Fun, interesting and worthwhile.

Anyway, I'm already late, but feel free to email me.


lori - Jul 20, 2005 4:05:57 pm PDT #1663 of 10002

The same sex marriage bill in Canada has been given Royal Assent and now is law of the land:

YAY Canadia!


Kat - Jul 20, 2005 4:07:39 pm PDT #1664 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

If it is consensual, then no, I wouldn't report it to the state as abuse. If it were nonconsensual, then I would be required to report it as abuse anyhow.

Being a mandated reporter is very formalized. There's a set of forms and I have a 48 hour period in which to report things like suicide attempts, domestic violence and abuse. Interestingly, in cases where I am REQUIRED to report, I can't just report to people who actually could help. In fact, reporting is done by calling the CPS and the police.

Consensual sex between minors I woudn't report to the state (i.e., fill out paper work and call the cops). I would probably report them to the school psych or the social worker or the health worker and possibly their parents, which is NOT part of the mandated-reporter bit. But to the state as part of the abuse process, it would never occur to me to do so. And if every teacher did, the state would be fucked 2000 times over to deal with all the cases.

And, in the case where I suspected statutory rape 2 years ago (consensual sex between a minor and an 18 year old) I actually worked with the kid, as did the school psych and the health worker on campus. And I also eventually got her to break up with him. But I didn't report it and the school psych, who knows the ins and outs of reporting for mandated-reporter stuff, never mentioned that I should. So I guess statutory rape isn't mandated reporting.


Jesse - Jul 20, 2005 4:10:08 pm PDT #1665 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

YAY Canada!


Kat - Jul 20, 2005 4:11:08 pm PDT #1666 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Indeed. Go Canada! That makes me want to move there. I mean more so than usual.


Sue - Jul 20, 2005 4:11:16 pm PDT #1667 of 10002
hip deep in pie

Yay indeed!

I wonder what the Queen thinks.


Jesse - Jul 20, 2005 4:13:07 pm PDT #1668 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I was going to say she must have given it the OK, but NO!

Supreme Court of Canada Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin gave the Queen's consent to the bill on behalf of Gov. Gen. Adrienne Clarkson, who is off-duty recovering from surgery.

It's third-hand royal assent!


lori - Jul 20, 2005 4:15:35 pm PDT #1669 of 10002

They snuck it through while everyone wasn't at work!