Riley: Oh, yeah. Sorry 'bout last time. Heard I missed out on some fun. Xander: Oh yeah, fun was had. Also frolic, merriment and near-death hijinks.

'Never Leave Me'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Jul 20, 2005 5:44:12 am PDT #1429 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'd take Scalia over Thomas on the Court any day.

After Scalia's dissent in Lawrence v. Texas, I have the same feeling about Scalia vs. Thomas that Xander had when Olaf asked him to choose between Willow and Anya.


Allyson - Jul 20, 2005 5:46:36 am PDT #1430 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm depressed - and have been for some time - about the state of women's rights and privacy, and I'm not optimistic about the future.

I think that it's like a slingshot. The band has been pulled as tightly as possible to the right, and the tension has maxed out. It will either break or completely snap back to the left. But not before we get a rock between the eyes.


Volans - Jul 20, 2005 5:46:50 am PDT #1431 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Roberts graduated Harvard Law at age 24 or something, so he's not lacking in smarts (or at least a strong work ethic).

Or money. I know too many twits who can't find their butt with both hands who've graduated young from Harvard Law to be all that impressed with that CV entry. Main deputy solicitor general's a little more impressive. I know the current solicitor general (until recently was deputy), and he's smart and a hard worker. Conservative as all get out and a NASCAR fan in the mix.

However, from what I heard his wife is part of Feminists for Life which is an anti-Roe-v-Wade group.

Knowing the hours successful attorneys pull, he's probably seen her twice in the last 5 years.


brenda m - Jul 20, 2005 5:47:14 am PDT #1432 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Scalia's a brilliant legal mind, but that doesn't mean he doesn't frame his arguments to get him the outcome he wants.

whereas, if the Republican party asked him to, Thomas would insist that gravity does not exist right until the moment the falling piano squashed him flat.

Ok, who do I have to sell my soul to to make this happen?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 20, 2005 5:49:19 am PDT #1433 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm kind of conflicted because his opinion on Roe vs. Wade as publicly stated mirrors my own (disagree personally but believe it should be enforced as the Will of the People/Supreme Court). But most of the people who agree with me on that issue swing WAY further right on everything else.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 20, 2005 5:51:34 am PDT #1434 of 10002
What is even happening?

And that's only 52% of whatever the percentage of eligible voters who voted (which is what - 65% or something).

I think that 65% might be high, but I'm too afraid of making myself morose, to google it.

I think that it's like a slingshot. The band has been pulled as tightly as possible to the right, and the tension has maxed out. It will either break or completely snap back to the left. But not before we get a rock between the eyes.

HA!


Frankenbuddha - Jul 20, 2005 5:51:51 am PDT #1435 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I've never, ever felt this kind of helpless anger and disconnection before, and it's a constant struggle not to just say "you know what, fuck us. We got the government we asked for, and now we get to reap the rewards."

I think that what were seeing is the people who felt just this way when the Democrats were (mostly) in charge of everything (roughly from FDR until Reagan - Ike and Nixon detours aside) are now getting things their way. It would certainly explain the level of vindictiveness and the whole "we're still the victims even though we're in charge of all 3 government branches" mentality.


Nutty - Jul 20, 2005 5:53:05 am PDT #1436 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

After Scalia's dissent in Lawrence v. Texas

This would be the obnox factor. He's an incredibly sore loser, and I find he's a sore winner, too. It's not just that I personally find it annoying and embarrassing, that public speech can be so snarly-nasty, but I also expect more decorum out of our Supremes.

They require those who come to argue before them to wear morning coats, you know. If you're going to get all formal with the cut of a man's suit, I should think the cut of a man's tongue (or pen) would matter too.


Jesse - Jul 20, 2005 5:54:23 am PDT #1437 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Good point, Frank. It's exactly the people who, when they were the age I am now, were thinking, "Things are as bad as they've ever been in my lifetime," who are now in charge.


Volans - Jul 20, 2005 5:55:37 am PDT #1438 of 10002
move out and draw fire

I think that what were seeing is the people who felt just this way when the Democrats were (mostly) in charge

I think people just want strong authority figures, and the Dems are really bad at that.