When we landed here you said you needed a few days to get space worthy again and is there somethin' wrong with your bunk?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Spike's Bitches 25 to Life  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Cass - Aug 23, 2005 1:11:46 pm PDT #8220 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Swiss is a go!
I was hungry and it was melty. Possibly my lunchtime OTP.


beekaytee - Aug 23, 2005 1:13:22 pm PDT #8221 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I think I generally suck though. At this stage in my life, I am sufficiently cranky to walk away from situations that piss me off, rather than, I don't know, staying, hanging in, dealing, fighting.

I suck exactly like this. Thank God. After a lifetime of battling, I done wore out my giving a rat's behind about other people's recreational drama.

eta: cuck? good lord, what could that word possibly mean?!


Susan W. - Aug 23, 2005 1:14:30 pm PDT #8222 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Coming late to the Shower From Hell discussion--is it just me, or has there been serious Shower Expectation Inflation in the past few years? I've been to weddings ranging from 60 guests drinking punch and eating nibblies in the church fellowship hall for the reception to 500 guests in a posh hotel ballroom with a sit-down dinner and dancing to a live band, and everything in between, all determined by the budget and cultural expectations of the happy couple and/or their families. And I celebrated at all of them, because as a guest the expectations were the same regardless of the scale of the party--I showed up nicely dressed, wished the couple well, and only paid for my gift and transportation to the site.

But showers were always simple. My three (yes, three--I had one in Alabama given by Mom's church friends, one in Philly given by my bridesmaids, and one in Seattle given by our friends) were typical. The first was in a church hall, with punch and nibblies. The second was a garden party in a bridesmaid's lovely yard, with a delicious cake she'd baked herself and assorted nibblies. The third was in the hostess's living room, with inexpensive potluck refreshments. It never would've occurred to me to expect a spa day or anything at a fancy restaurant or hotel, but from what I've seen of weddings after mine (in 1999), I get the sense it's the latest push from the Bridal-Industrial Complex to milk yet more money out of weddings.


Trudy Booth - Aug 23, 2005 1:15:56 pm PDT #8223 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I was hungry and it was melty. Possibly my lunchtime OTP.

Well, if you made it a quesedilla.


DavidS - Aug 23, 2005 1:18:36 pm PDT #8224 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

is it just me, or has there been serious Shower Expectation Inflation in the past few years?

Right up there with Kiddie Birthday Inflation.


Trudy Booth - Aug 23, 2005 1:19:10 pm PDT #8225 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Showers belong on verandas, you know?

There are suitable substitutes should a veranda not be available or seasonal.


Aims - Aug 23, 2005 1:21:25 pm PDT #8226 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

My FB (former boss) had a beautiful baby shower at a hotel. It was for High Tea. And it was wonderful. Her SiL hosted and no one paid anything. My Michigan Bridal Shower was in a restaurant, but it was dessert only and my mom paid for it. Her choice to have it there. My baby shower here was also at a restaurant and was beautiful and the food delicious, but I know it was expensive and while I loved it, I would have been just as pleased with something more low key.


Trudy Booth - Aug 23, 2005 1:22:25 pm PDT #8227 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And kiddie parties belong in back yards. They should have pin the tail on the donkey and MAYBE a clown.

I'm making up rules today. Anybody else need some? For inlaws? People who comment on weight?


beekaytee - Aug 23, 2005 1:23:54 pm PDT #8228 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

serious Shower Expectation Inflation

The last two weddings I did, the brides skipped the shower deal but opted instead for 'going to the beach'. One beach was on an island. I waved from the airport. The other was in Florida. The wedding was in DC. I waved from the airport.

The next wedding is in the Bay Area. I'm hosting a brunch here (in DC) a month later when the couple comes to visit. I'm really looking forward to doing it. They are lovely, unpretentious people.


Susan W. - Aug 23, 2005 1:25:19 pm PDT #8229 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

IMO, the fancy stuff is all cool if the host can pay for it and not expect the guests to shell out, just like those 500-guest fancy weddings are grand as long as no one is mortgaging his or her future for the sake of one party. But better to have a simple party in someone's living room than ask guests to pay.

Yeah, I'd started noticing the kiddie party thing, too. WTF? My birthday parties were always friends at my house playing and eating cake. Occasionally people had parties at Chuck E Cheese or the roller rink or something, and we all thought those kids were SO COOL.