Yeah, and there's no real way to say "I want to live by myself" instead of "I don't want to live with you" that wouldn't very likely be steered toward that very comment. You are a good son for caring about this, though. More than a few in your situation would cease to care for the sake of having the discussion over with.

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I know that to come right out and say, "I don't want to live with you," would be taken as a form of rejection, and they would be hurt.

There's a conversation of boundaries started by Teppy upthread -- I think you have to decide what's more important here, and what's yours to work around -- your feelings or theirs.

If you don't want to tell them you won't live with them, you take the pain upon yourself. It's a choice you can make.

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I don't know, maybe I'm being wishy washy by actually wanting to be a part of my family but still retaining some semblance of independence.

That's not being wishy washy, that's setting boundaries. Healthy, good boundaries.

If you wanted to move back with your parents and have a more traditional Indian family relationship, then great. But, from what you've said, that isn't what you want. That's great, too. But, it's going to take a lot of work to train your family who expects otherwise.

I live about 600 miles from my parents. I talk to my mom a couple of times per month (more if its needed, but it rarely is); I visit 2 times per year (more lately but that's because of my dad's health). I love my parents and my siblings, and I'm still part of the family, but I'm def. independent.

Granted, it's much easier for me because my parents don't expect me to live at home until I get married.

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My other problem is that for some reason I actually care about my parents' feelings, and I know that to come right out and say, "I don't want to live with you," would be taken as a form of rejection, and they would be hurt.

A little hurt now, may save you all a lot of hurt later.

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Oh, P-C. Huge beloving hugs, all laced with frustration that hugs ain't gonna fix anything right now. But, YES, what the others said about signing up with a temp agency right now.

Check with your university, too -- sometimes they have their own internal temp pool (I signed up with four temp agencies in San Francisco my first month here and got one assignment in five months; I signed up with the UCSF temp pool and at the sign-up interview got an assignment beginning the next day).

It's got to be so immensely hard, and frustrating, and you must be so sick of crying over this -- but oh, I just want to shake your parents. I know they're doing it out of love, but it's knotting my gut up to see how they're tying you into worse and worse knots.

FWIW, both my younger brothers went off to college and NEVER MOVED BACK HOME. EVER. One lives in the Pacific Northwest, one lives in Boston. Both love their parents. Both visit when they can afford it, both have always made it clear to their families that there are guest rooms and foldout sofas for anyone who wants to visit them; equating your not wanting to move back in with your parents with no longer wanting to be part of the family is seriously unbalanced.

You're a good guy -- moral, scrupulous, deeply worried about and invested in your relationship with your parents, closer and more genuinely friendly and deeply bonded with your siblings than anyone I know (most certainly including myself -- I suck at that, and I'm envious of and amazed at the genuine friendship among the three of you). I hate that you are letting yourself get hammered like this, that your parents clearly love you but are just as clearly bent on controlling you utterly.

Just... ((((())))). And sign up with a temp agency, and call Deb back and

eta - changed because I misunderstood the lease situation

try try try to work something out. Think of all the possible solutions to the hole this has put you in, think about what you'd be doing or planning if your parents hadn't done this, write it all out, decide what you want and how to articulate it to her so it sounds mutually beneficial, and practice until you can just state that one thing that one way.

And, speaking as someone who is seriously conflict-avoidy and phone-phobic, I cannot highly enough recommend making notes for a script before you call, or even writing the whole thing out.

But don't call anyone until you've washed your face and fed yourself, preferably a treat, and maybe either hugged a pillow (if no humans are available) or pounded the holy shit out of it.

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My other problem is that for some reason I actually care about my parents' feelings

You love your parents. Of course you care about their feelings. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't care about your own as well.

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And sign up with a temp agency, and call Deb back and politely ask her why, since you, the primary leaseholder, never authorized the cancellation of the previous through-November lease, this new through next September lease isn't totally voided. A change was made without your authorization, you've clarified the matter with her, and therefore the original lease should remain in effect.

The whole lease thing is taken care of. Nothing is being done. The problem now is I've discovered that if I don't void the new lease (which begins at the end of August), I will be stuck with it for the next year.

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I know that to come right out and say, "I don't want to live with you," would be taken as a form of rejection, and they would be hurt. There's a conversation of boundaries started by Teppy upthread -- I think you have to decide what's more important here, and what's yours to work around -- your feelings or theirs.

I really agree with this. Your wanting to live with them would be a form of rejection and it would hurt them.

If you don't want to tell them you won't live with them, you take the pain upon yourself. It's a choice you can make.

It is also a choice you really have to make. There just is no way out of this situation where no one will be hurt. I hope it is as painless as possible though. Whatever you choose.

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The problem now is I've discovered that if I don't void the new lease (which begins at the end of August), I will be stuck with it for the next year.

Yup, I saw that, so I edited above.

Gah! This just sounds like such a monstrous clash of your parents' cultural expectations and your own hopes and goals.

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I know there are people who cut themselves off from their families. That's not the way Indian culture works. I don't know, maybe I'm being wishy washy by actually wanting to be a part of my family but still retaining some semblance of independence.

I don't think you should cut yourself off from them, and to the extent that your actions have an influence, I don't think you should allow them to make it seem as if that is what you are doing whenever you choose any option that isn't one they've presented.

You are an adult who loves your family, but wants to make your own decisions about where you live, not to upset them, but to fulfill your own aspirations.

My other problem is that for some reason I actually care about my parents' feelings, and I know that to come right out and say, "I don't want to live with you," would be taken as a form of rejection, and they would be hurt.

Of course you care about their feelings, and you don't have to say you don't want to live with them, even if it is part of your reasoning. Your reasons can be stated in positively--that is, about what you want, rather than as a rejection of that which you may not want. "I like Ann Arbor, and I have connections with the university that may be helpful in my pursuit of a job," is reason enough. They may not like it. They may not agree with it. But it is not their job search. It may take time for them to accept it, but don't let them run your side of the conversation.

When they say things like, "Don't you love your family," or "Don't you want to see your family," don't buy into it. You can't stop them from going there, but you don't have to follow. You say something like, "I need to dedicate myself to finding a job right now."

If you get a job (not a career, something that gives you a couple of hundred bucks a week), you can stretch that 9 months worth of rent you have in savings to see you through to the end of your new lease.

As for this:

No, no, he didn't have to do that. Well, then, he was buying a ticket to Atlanta tomorrow, and if I found a job in the next week, he would cancel it. He had to go back to work now.

This is where you say, "Don't buy the ticket Dad, because I can't use it right now. I appreciate the thought, but I can't use it. If you and mom would like to come visit, you can, but it will have to be after [whatever acceptable-to-you date]."

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