( continues...) "You're trying to be something you are. You just... you don't know who that is yet." - but isn't that what growing up is all about? I love this. This is where a show about FBI agents and murders and gore becomes about, well, me. So, yeah, it does it by putting people in much more extreme situations than actual everyday life stuff, but that's just as using a space-ship with a broken engine to tell something about people trying to make it in the world, and it also, in a sense, felt to me to be about me. Um, meMeME.

"Cheers me up" - she moved from "you" to "me" (after the mention of the plant). She's getting into the victim's head and talking about herself at the same time. It's just as much about her - and her ability to do that - as it is about the murders. And that's what drove poor Alvarez to suicide. And Web is totally pushing her in that way. He seems like he already knows what her answers are going to be, and still he needs *her* to get to those answers, for some reason. It can't be just for the answers themselves, if he knows them already, right?

Oh, so this is how he finds them! The trains. I loved that aspect. Such a practical yet in-their-heads way to tie the "new girl in town" concept.

I was reading the scenes with the train and the "other new girl" without stopping. I just wanted to know "what happens next".

OK, why is Web so angry? Did he expect her to do anything else? To leave when she sees their suspect? Also, we still don't know for sure that he's the murderer, right? He's a strange guy who is on trains a lot, but in these kinds of stories, as long as we're not 100% sure, we can't tell what twist will jump at us, right?

Oh, and the tech guy getting into the train with Rebecca is, I think, just proving my point. It's actually him, right? And all of Web's looks at him mean that Web suspects something, too?

Rebecca put herself in a position of bait, but actually Web manipulated her into that, or a little bit of both. She places herself as potential victim to the murderer, but from the possibility of a position of strength for her, since she chooses to do it, identifies how to do it, understands the murderer more than all those before her. And still there's the element of Web putting her there, so maybe it was less of her choice than she thought it was. Oh, so many possibilities, so many things to play with.

"you're not anything now" - just like Web and Rebecca said the murderer thinks. And I liked the way it was casually woven into the conversation, with her being fired and all.

"You didn't even know my name. I'm only wearing it." - again with the names and the knowing about people. I *love* that. It doesn't stop being interesting and running around in my head, even when it's a suspense-how-will-they-save-her kind of story.

Oh, and I want to make sure I got this straight: Web told Rebecca to get back on the *train* and go back to LAX? He sent her back on the train, where she was just bait, and I'm suspecting while guessing they arrested the wrong guy? Wow.

I wonder if Rebecca acted much differently in the second train round when compared to the first, in the one in which she was really like one of those girls that the murderer targeted, as opposed to the one in which she was bait, wired, with people watching her moves, and therefore in a different position.

"I was made a nobody a long time ago. By something a hell of a lot scarier than you." - I wanted to hug Rebecca when I read that line. Poor little lost girl who still manages to stand up on her feet and fight back and tries to do good and escape from that and find herself and find that strength exactly from that poor-girl place that makes me want to hug her.

Oh. My. Goodness. Web shot him! Not only did he know all along, everything, including where they will get off the train, he also arranged it so that he can be there alone with the two of them and he shot him! He's not the usual FBI "let's bring bad guys to justice" person, is he? Either being able to get bored by cases and stop them in the middle, or killing (executing?) a serial killer without even telling him "drop her" first.

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( continues...) Mal would have shot him without blinking, either, wouldn't he? He would have never ever put Rebecca in that place, but he would have shot that killer without a moment's hesitation. But Mal also didn't work for the same system that's supposed to take care of those kind of criminals. Web scares me and fascinates me at the same time.

Web said "That's my girl", but the next minute, he tells Paul to take care of her, which pretty much can say "save her from me". Which did he mean? Both? Are they the same thing and Paul doesn't even know it?

I really like Paul, still don't really know Rebecca (even though she gave the line that pinged the "me! ME! I know this!" buttons for me), and am fascinated by Web. I guess there was no time to get to know the other main characters in just the one episode, right? But I loved what I read! I am even more curious now about the characters and what will happen to them and what are their past relationships and how will their future relationships will shape out to become, but that only makes me love what I got to read even more. Thank you, Kristen!

[Edit: Oops, I have some silly timing. Didn't mean to disturb the conversation or anything.]

As Allyson said, it makes one's mind go to the Micheal Moore thing and the pres-as-doofus of it, which tickles me. But I'll have no rage. So backing away now.

Nilly! That was fun. Well, for me. Wonder why?

Thank you, Jessica. I put off seeing that movie for a long time because my own depression was enough to handle without adding the Administration on top of it. I only finally saw it a couple months ago. I remember the scene now that I've read that defintion (transcript), but I must have repressed it.

eta: And if you'll permit me to ask a stupid question - Nilly said Minearverse was about soaps and crafts...and certain TV shows. I naively assumed it was about certain TV shows. How'd it develop the culture to be about soaps and crafts as well? Is Tim particularly into those?

Well, that was fun for me!

Or, not "fun", because of the gasping and the oh-my-goodness and the ouches in my head. So some other word, that's less merry than fun, but still keeps the meaning?

I can't wait to read the following ones. I wish there weren't missing ones in Kristen's list, though, for story-in-order purposes.

Hey Tim, if you're still here I have a fannish question...:

If The Inside had continued what direction would you have taken with season 2 and the Pony Man?

I think that's pretty much the extent of my curiosity.

How'd it develop the culture to be about soaps and crafts as well?

Spidra, I was trying to joke. Soaps and crafts are the main topic that the natter in this thread (which happens in each and every thread) happened to go it, for quite a few hunderds of posts. So your first assumption is 100% correct.

Spidra, it's just where the conversation has gone from time to time. Soaps and crafts. And procrastination.

Jackal, considering I'm usually still breaking a story and way behind while it's prepping... uh. Er. Someplace? I figured he'd be the big bad of the season. One thought was to have Pre-Filer either get released or escape and have him offer Pony Man up to Rebecca.