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Betsy HP - Apr 05, 2006 8:20:50 am PDT #9295 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Can those of you who have worked on-set explain something to me?

Whenever somebody's trying to say the minimally polite thing about another act-being, it's "He/she always hits his/her mark." I understand that the mark is the place you have to be so that the camera is focused properly and everything that's supposed to be in the shot is there. Two questions:

  • Are there many working film/video actors who *can't* hit a mark?
  • How do you do it without looking at the floor? Excellent peripheral vision?


Sue - Apr 05, 2006 8:24:25 am PDT #9296 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Are there many working film/video actors who *can't* hit a mark?

I bet the inexperienced ones have problems, and there will always be those who "improvise".


tommyrot - Apr 05, 2006 8:24:34 am PDT #9297 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How do you do it without looking at the floor? Excellent peripheral vision?

Practise the scene in question until you don't need to look at the floor?


Topic!Cindy - Apr 05, 2006 8:39:01 am PDT #9298 of 10001
What is even happening?

I have come to the realization that come the revolution, *I* will be first up against the wall. The bourgeois intellectuals go first.

Well, see, this is where procrastination comes in handy. I might end up in the group that's going up against the wall first, but odds are, I'll be late.


JZ - Apr 05, 2006 8:45:14 am PDT #9299 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

How do you do it without looking at the floor? Excellent peripheral vision?

Not that I know from film, but I do know from stage work and street improv that after enough years you just get a sense of the geography of the playing space -- you don't need to scrutinize everything and map it out anymore, your body just remembers where the sightlines are, knows who in the audience and who in the scene can see you and hear you and who can't, instantly recognizes the different feel of light or shadow on your face. Same way a major league batter can make the decision to swing or not in the 1/3 of a second when the ball is actually in hitting range. After enough years doing it, it's just muscle memory.

But before the muscle memory kicks in, lots of floor-looking and rote memorization.


SailAweigh - Apr 05, 2006 9:29:21 am PDT #9300 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

instantly recognizes the different feel of light or shadow on your face.

This can be a huge problem for the lighting folks. When we put on The Dollhouse at the UW, the lead actress disliked direct light in the face. She had a nasty habit, after focus was done, of not hitting her mark during performance. They would refocus and it would happen again. They practically had to chase her around the stage to get her lit.


JZ - Apr 05, 2006 9:43:42 am PDT #9301 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

When we put on The Dollhouse at the UW, the lead actress disliked direct light in the face.

Oh, that must have driven you batshit! Possibly she should have reconsidered her choice of major, or at least gone into voice work so she could spend all her time in a dark little booth.

"Always hits his/her mark" may be faint praise, but it's still praise -- consistently being where you need to be, when they need you, without making a fuss about it, makes everything so infinitely easier for all those other people who are also doing this for a living, and usually sweating to meet deadlines and budgets and working under approximately a billion other urgent constraints.


Jessica - Apr 05, 2006 9:45:38 am PDT #9302 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

"Always hits his/her mark" may be faint praise

I've always assumed it was shorthand for a certain level of professionalism, and not a literal "Wow, s/he's really good at counting steps!" which would be kind of backhanded.


juliana - Apr 05, 2006 10:02:19 am PDT #9303 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

lead actress disliked direct light in the face.

Da-buh? Weird.

Though I've worked with more than my fair share of actors who can't ever seem to find their light. Light is hot & bright. I don't know how they can fail to find it, but they do. There's been times when I've thought it would be easier to just have a million spotlights following everyone around.


Sophia Brooks - Apr 05, 2006 10:02:34 am PDT #9304 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I'm with Jessica-- I assumed that the actor would be both both literally hitting their marks and hitting their marks in knowing their lines, delivering a consistant performance, etc...