A ghost? What's the deal? Is every frat on this campus haunted? And if so, why do people keep coming to these parties, cause it's not the snacks.

Xander ,'Dirty Girls'


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Nilly - Mar 20, 2006 2:36:58 am PST #8921 of 10001
Swouncing

Which is pathetic

Not to correct your English or anything, but I think you misspelled "human".

The how part is the part where I have to use words like, "trustworthy," "charming," "funny," when talking about myself and why folks took my calls for interviews and donations.

Um, silly question, but - is there anyone who did this that you could ask? Would quoting somebody else as saying that you're something-good be less of a problem?

(Not that I don't understand the problem in and of itself, of course. I have the same thing with, well, my own self.)

It also feels terribly tedious to me

Do you have any older explanations of these things that you can re-read and adapt now for your essay?

are all about disbelief and the perception that I'm either making it all up or something.

Well, these things may be way more about the people saying them than about you, anything you can do or say won't change that. If somebody chooses not to believe, then you can't make them, right? You can't carry them by the collar of their shirt and drag them along with you on a charity auction or the like, no matter how much the image may look, um, appealing?


Allyson - Mar 20, 2006 5:47:59 am PST #8922 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Nilly's so smart.

Well, these things may be way more about the people saying them than about you, anything you can do or say won't change that.

This is a lovely thing to remember.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 20, 2006 6:04:00 am PST #8923 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think the doubt from people who don't know you is something you have to just allow to pass without dwelling on it, Allyson. I mean, the internet actually is full of fakes and phonies who try to make themselves seem important via lies and exaggerating their connections to fame. The skeptical instinct that's leading them to voice disbelief (erroneously in your case) is probably actually healthy in general—less likelihood of them falling for scams that arise out of fandom.

But you know the truth of your involvement in online fandom, and so do the people who know you.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2006 6:23:14 am PST #8924 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Allyson, there's the angle that you write about at least one fake--and you write about people like me who weren't actually fakes (as far as y'all know, she says twirling her moustache). And then there's why people might think you're one of those selfsame fakes.


victor infante - Mar 20, 2006 7:48:33 am PST #8925 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'm a fake and proud of it!


Nilly - Mar 20, 2006 7:50:47 am PST #8926 of 10001
Swouncing

there's the angle that you write about at least one fake

That's actually a really interesting question, IMHO. How does anybody knows that anybody online isn't a fake? How did you guys know that I wasn't a fake, before I met you? How did *I* know, for that matters? Hmm.

I'm a fake and proud of it!

Weren't those Cindy and Frank?


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2006 7:51:05 am PST #8927 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I feel like an imposter; does that count?


Nilly - Mar 20, 2006 7:53:22 am PST #8928 of 10001
Swouncing

If you feel like an imposter, but we believe you (um, either that you're an imposter, or to what you show us), would it still count?


WindSparrow - Mar 20, 2006 8:03:43 am PST #8929 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I denounce victor for faking being a fake.


amych - Mar 20, 2006 8:14:17 am PST #8930 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Weren't those Cindy and Frank?

They're fictional. Totally different vibe.