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[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
It's sort of odd, realizing how much pop culture people miss out on by not being American parents. (Or former American children
I've never been either, but it only means I can avoid them if I choose. But I know the references, and they have meaning to me. We got a subset of American TV in Jamaica, but it's not like we had more than a couple hours of local programming a day. Not much to compete for brainspace.
"Ketchup Vampires" is actually a weirdie; it's a VHS tape we had, dubbed from the original German (!). It was a present from the grandparents.
Is it Sesame Street, or just another children's show?
But I know the references
There are USA things I know only the references to, never saw the actual thing, and still am able to recognize references - like, "Gilligan's Island" (sp?), for example, or "The Brady Bunch".
There's a foreign PhD student here, who grew up in what used to be East-Gernany. One day, I don't remember why, I was talking about the Muppers (not that I need that much reason to put my geek on when it comes to my first tv love), and it turned out he has never seem them as a child, only as an adult. We played for a while with Google before we were able to find some pictures of stuff from the puppets show that he remembered as a kid. It was so strange, because I was used to me being the one who is furthest from the center.
When it comes to grown-up tv and movies, there is very little original Israeli material, even less than that is any good, and most of the good stuff is quite recent. For children, however, there's a long and beautiful tradition of tv shows, both for entertainment and educational, on top of all the dubbed stuff. The collective memory of people round my age is full of that (a bit less in later years, though, as the variety grew larger and the quality grew lower).
Um, I can't even pretend I can make this in any way connected to the thread title.
KV is just another children's show. Think of it as my own private sorrow; you only know about it if some idiot gave your kids the videotape.
I like "muppers" better than "muppets".
Um, I can't even pretend I can make this in any way connected to the thread title.
Ummm. We're supporting you, so that you know you aren't as clumsy as you might feel, when it comes to pop culture?
I like "muppers" better than "muppets".
I fixed the typo and then re-fixed it, just so your post won't look crazy. But my first tv love will always be the Muppets.
[Edit: thanks, Cindy! Your support is working already, declaring it being a help in and of itself.]
I actually thought he was fighting for redeption alot more on Angel, actually understood what it meant on Angel. On Buffy it was still all for the girl. On Angel it was for the good of humanity.
Personally, I thought he was fighting to show up Angel in a fit of "Anything you can do, I can do better!" pique until Fred became a casualty. Though perhaps it was being tortured by Dana that finally knocked some sympathy for victims into his head, and it just took a few episodes to percolate.
being tortured by Dana
What, she tied him to a chair and sang show tunes? (Actually, she has a nice voice.)
Though perhaps it was being tortured by Dana that finally knocked some sympathy for victims into his head, and it just took a few episodes to percolate.That's where my vote lands. The end of Damage is one of my favourite Spike-moments, and I say that as one of those people that thinks he's overused and don't really like him very much anymore even though he once were cool. I also feel that his soul might have had effect on him and his choices before, but it's here it really start to matter, it's here his journey to humanity begins.
I actually look forward to the Spike-movie, but that has more to do with being starved for buffyversestuff and for the love of Tim than the character. Hopefully there will be Illyria too. Spike leading Illyra, they learning lots of thingies from each other, plus good amounts of pain and death. I could enjoy that.
Damage is by the way pretty far up the top on my list of best Angel-episodes. I mean, it's got Andrew, a crazy vampire slayer and a bonesaw, which might not be quite as cool as a melon baller but still effective. How can there not be love?!
That "Drusilla sired me but you made me a monster!" moment was the sort of thing I'd hoped for in the way of Spike/Angel interaction, as opposed to the infantile "Am not!" "Are too!" arguments that made up 90% of their dialogue together in Season 5.