In season two's Lie to Me. Willow says it to Angel, when they're checking out a club of Vampire Wannabes.

Why was this cut? Do we know? It seems really wierd that something would be cut after airing.

It seems really wierd that something would be cut after airing.

It's very common to cut for reruns (add more commercials! make extra money! nobody's gonna notice!) but it's strange that they'd use the rerun version rather than the original for DVDs.

Sorry, that's what I meant. I'm well aware of the cutting that happens for re-runs and in syndication.

I shoulda figured that. We're similarly weirded-out, then.

eta: I'm also suddenly very aware that I have the rerun on my TiVo, the DVD on the shelf next to it, and an hour and eleven minutes until I can go home to compare them side by side to be really really sure that they're the same version. Will the madness never end?

In the seasson dvd's there is interview with Joss . he says they were sitting around and he was reminded that they could not do something, because the line went through Faith. We know the line activated Faith after kendra died, and we know when Buffy did her swan death no slayer was activated.

I will try and find it for you.

Now yes, he can change that, his show, his ideas.

I Guess, I would think if there was another slayer out there, they would have a big time explaination how she survived the First's death bringers as they hunted down potentials. I think The First would be all over a slayer out there on her own and vulnerable. He knew who potentials were, I can't see how he would not know another called slayer.

In the seasson dvd's there is interview with Joss .

Generally though, people only take what's actually shown on screen to be canon. Interviews and such may indicate intent, but those intentions have often been thrown out the window. Joss in particular tends to withhold committing on certain world-building aspects until story dictates that he make one choice over another. He likes to keep his options open.

I thought it was pretty clearly established in Chosen that the Slayer line now goes through all of them, and that the calling mechanism no longer depends on Slayer death to activate new ones, assuming that Willow's spell worked like they intended it to (which, yes, is a big assumption, and no, doesn't answer the Fray question, but it does kind of make the phrase "Slayer line" meaningless.)

In the seasson dvd's there is interview with Joss . he says they were sitting around and he was reminded that they could not do something, because the line went through Faith. We know the line activated Faith after kendra died, and we know when Buffy did her swan death no slayer was activated.

I will try and find it for you.

That's okay. I'm not disputing Joss ever said that. I know Joss has said that. He's also said, that "The line runs through Faith, unless I get a cool idea, in which case, forget I said that." I was talking about what is on screen. What is on screen is not carved in stone. What is on screen has the Scoobies assuming Faith was called when Kendra died. That does seem most likely. It does not guarantee that nobody got called when Buffy died the second time, and the appearance of the Run-Lola-Run slayerish woman (who seemed more on top of it than any of the other potentials did, at least until they had Buffy training them) provides the potential to call that into question.

I thought it was pretty clearly established in Chosen that the Slayer line now goes through all of them, and that the calling mechanism no longer depends on Slayer death to activate new ones, assuming that Willow's spell worked like they intended it to (which, yes, is a big assumption, and no, doesn't answer the Fray question, but it does kind of make the phrase "Slayer line" meaningless.)

What is on screen is not carved in stone.

perhaps, but until something or someone contradicts it, it's canon.

until something or someone contradicts it, it's canon.

Ayup.

I know meta doesn't countcount, but if you know what he said and you know what he meant -- well, Occam's razor is more like a lightsabre at that point.