Willow ,'Showtime'
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
In the seasson dvd's there is interview with Joss .
Generally though, people only take what's actually shown on screen to be canon. Interviews and such may indicate intent, but those intentions have often been thrown out the window. Joss in particular tends to withhold committing on certain world-building aspects until story dictates that he make one choice over another. He likes to keep his options open.
I thought it was pretty clearly established in Chosen that the Slayer line now goes through all of them, and that the calling mechanism no longer depends on Slayer death to activate new ones, assuming that Willow's spell worked like they intended it to (which, yes, is a big assumption, and no, doesn't answer the Fray question, but it does kind of make the phrase "Slayer line" meaningless.)
In the seasson dvd's there is interview with Joss . he says they were sitting around and he was reminded that they could not do something, because the line went through Faith. We know the line activated Faith after kendra died, and we know when Buffy did her swan death no slayer was activated.
I will try and find it for you.
That's okay. I'm not disputing Joss ever said that. I know Joss has said that. He's also said, that "The line runs through Faith, unless I get a cool idea, in which case, forget I said that." I was talking about what is on screen. What is on screen is not carved in stone. What is on screen has the Scoobies assuming Faith was called when Kendra died. That does seem most likely. It does not guarantee that nobody got called when Buffy died the second time, and the appearance of the Run-Lola-Run slayerish woman (who seemed more on top of it than any of the other potentials did, at least until they had Buffy training them) provides the potential to call that into question.
I thought it was pretty clearly established in Chosen that the Slayer line now goes through all of them, and that the calling mechanism no longer depends on Slayer death to activate new ones, assuming that Willow's spell worked like they intended it to (which, yes, is a big assumption, and no, doesn't answer the Fray question, but it does kind of make the phrase "Slayer line" meaningless.)It seemed to, yes.
What is on screen is not carved in stone.
perhaps, but until something or someone contradicts it, it's canon.
until something or someone contradicts it, it's canon.
Ayup.
I know meta doesn't countcount, but if you know what he said and you know what he meant -- well, Occam's razor is more like a lightsabre at that point.
But in this case it's canon that somebody said "the line goes through Faith" or whatever. It's not canon that what they said was true.
I think Angel believes it when he tells Buffy that she's he only person he ever loved. I don't think it's true, but I don't dispute that he said it, or that he believed it. I don't think the characters are any more reliable when describing their own world than real people are at describing ours.
It's not canon that what they said was true.
I'm just lazy, I guess. Between not seeing any canon that contradicts the assumption, and knowing that the line wasn't written as being unreliable -- I'm not saying that it HAS to be that way, unto all eternity. Just that it's good enough for me right now, and I obviously don't get why people keep pointing out it mightn't be the eternal truth.
Maybe Tim could,if he ever gets awayf rom the tv and out the jammies,enlighten us on the whole slayer line thing.
If all the potentials were called all at the same time, the line would be so tweaked and weakened, that eventually it would cave in on itself. Bringing it back to one slayer, which techincally would be Buffy. Back to the begining.
Just thinking out loud.
And yes I agree about commentaries and what is shown not matching. Much like Spike saying"I will give the bitch what she deserved" and then commentary trying to tell us he emant the whole time to go and get his soul. That never rang true to me.
Maybe Tim could,if he ever gets awayf rom the tv and out the jammies,enlighten us on the whole slayer line thing.
You mean, because of all the Buffy episodes he wrote?
I suppose he has a more direct line to Joss than any of the rest of us, but I gather Tim has spent a lot less time than the board average religiously watching Buffy episodes.