Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Gus - Sep 10, 2005 7:58:28 pm PDT #3675 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I am not trying to set up a political flame-fest.

Here is my take: Individual effort (non-governmental) was and is more effective in the Katrina thing. Everything government has done around this has been a disaster, impeding individual effort.

Government? Bad, in this situation.

Here, however, is my question: What natural forces of the marketplace were missing for the people in the Domes?


sumi - Sep 10, 2005 8:19:16 pm PDT #3676 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Goods? Services? Capital?


Gus - Sep 10, 2005 8:22:48 pm PDT #3677 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

What sumi said, boiled down to "Capital".


Polter-Cow - Sep 10, 2005 8:40:55 pm PDT #3678 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Interrupting the political flame-fest for a Tim quote from the latest EW, regarding the fan-based marketing for Serenity:

"I just hope he didn't f--- it up," he deadpans. "I want to direct the next movie."


Gus - Sep 10, 2005 8:46:35 pm PDT #3679 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

"he" being Joss?


DavidS - Sep 10, 2005 8:49:28 pm PDT #3680 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

"he" being Joss?

Yeah.


Polter-Cow - Sep 10, 2005 8:59:17 pm PDT #3681 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Actually, he was referring to me. I ghostdirected the movie.


Gus - Sep 10, 2005 9:03:46 pm PDT #3682 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

You read it here first. If it goes wrong, it is P-C's fault.


Tim Minear - Sep 10, 2005 11:39:56 pm PDT #3683 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Gus, casting one's mind back -- I think my question was in response to a post you made where you said "Moon" wasn't about libertarian ideas. Thanks for agreeing that, at least to some degree, it is. But I wasn't really arguing the merits of Libertarianism. I would be a sorry advocate for it, since I don't fully embrace it.

I'd call myself a small "l" (L) libertarian. And I disagree about everything government doing in Katrina being a disaster. (granted, city, state and federal relief efforts were cocked up for days. Every link in the chain, it seemed, failed at some point, still:) Thousands of people were rescued off rooftops, for instance. The Coast Guard is part of of the government, and they just rocked like a rocking thing. I don't see how private industry does stuff like that.


Nilly - Sep 10, 2005 11:52:34 pm PDT #3684 of 10001
Swouncing

I think my question was in response to a post you made where you said "Moon" wasn't about libertarian ideas.

Yup, in Gus "The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People" Aug 18, 2005 6:20:31 am PDT :

But that is not what it is about. It is about misshapen Manny making a connection to Wyoh. It is about Mike being existentially bereft, and his being willing to make any change to reality to suit those people who "get" him.