And "Ther Germs" "Lexicon Devil" is already in episode 10. America probably weeping slightly less. But fuck 'em.
And I myself will be wearing pink taffeta as chenille would not go with my complexion.
Giles ,'Touched'
The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:52:37 pm PDT #2900 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"
DavidS - Aug 20, 2005 6:52:57 pm PDT #2901 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Okay. New subject.
Ayn Rand: Wrinkle beast or sexy bitch?
Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:53:12 pm PDT #2902 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"
Dear me. I've said "fuck" an awful lot tonight.
DavidS - Aug 20, 2005 6:53:30 pm PDT #2903 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
And "Ther Germs" "Lexicon Devil" is already in episode 10. America probably weeping slightly less. But fuck 'em.
Oof. I just had a punkgasm.
Polter-Cow - Aug 20, 2005 6:53:47 pm PDT #2904 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Dear me. I've said "fuck" an awful lot tonight.This means you should write for HBO.
Betsy HP - Aug 20, 2005 6:57:07 pm PDT #2905 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I just had a punkgasm.
Safety pins! Safety pins in new places!
Allyson - Aug 20, 2005 6:58:13 pm PDT #2906 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Oh, oh! I have a Moon question. Are you going to include that thing where Mike says that you can't predict for the stroke of genius? Because I love that line.
DavidS - Aug 20, 2005 6:59:14 pm PDT #2907 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Safety pins! Safety pins in new places!
Too late! Now I want Tim to do a whole show of The Inside based on X songs. "Man on the bus, screaming about the President..." "She's a white girl..." "Adult books..." "...our love passed out on the couch..." "Sugarlight, I can't belive / swallowing one bulb after another in the city of electric lights." Very noir band.
Allyson - Aug 20, 2005 7:03:04 pm PDT #2908 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Edited for stupid.
Gris - Aug 20, 2005 7:04:34 pm PDT #2909 of 10001
Hey. New board.
D. -- you think "Moon" is better than "Stranger"?
Yep, I do. Stranger annoys me. I actually think most of his juvenile works are much more fun than either of the two biggies, and sometimes get so annoyed at the failings of Moon that I drop it off my "Great works" list entirely, but then something always brings it back to me. Stranger, on the other hand, I read once, found often annoying and more often nonsensical, and will happily never read again.
The other one I wanted to sink my fangs into was Bester's "The Stars My Destination."
This would make me happier than happy, though I'd also love to see "The Demolished Man," "Psychoshop" (Did you ever read that? It was a Zelazny/Bester dual-work, and is brilliant), or any combination of his shorts stories. Bester is one of my absolute favorite writers, a personal artistic god.
The line marriages are in. I wasn't squicked by the idea. It's probably my favorite thing in the book. Endlessly interesting.
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I like them too. A lot, actually. Wouldn't want to participate in one, necessarily, but can easily understand how they could have developed and worked. I honestly don't think Heinlein was trying to pass his theoretical Moon society off as a Utopia, as so many seem to think, but rather a place that works by different principles - the line marriage seems to fit those principles, so I don't find myself pushed away from the book, any more than I would be from stories of harems in historical fiction.
Also, well, I'm going to assume Allyson's squick is with the idea of the line marriage, and the fact that the senior husband spends the night with a new wife in the family first (and vice versa - new husband goes to senior wife first, I'd assume, though we don't get a plot point to make it so) which is reasonable. But nobody forces these people NOT to be monogamous, and they are aware of their consent to sleep with any and every husband/wife when they enter, one would think. It's an economic structure designed to provide stability in the long term - and plenty a 20-year-old has married (and fucked) a 60-year-old for economic stability. This is why I don't squick.
Wyoh could've fucked just Manny all she wanted. Probably even gotten him to enter an additional marriage contract on top of the line marriage, splitting his portion of the line economics with her 1-to-1. She decided to join the line instead, which means she consents to fuck Grandpa if he can get it up, so why should I squick? It's her vagina to do with as she will.
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