Damn it! You know what? I'm sick of this crap. I'm sick of being the guy who eats insects and gets the funny syphilis. As of this moment, it's over. I'm finished being everybody's butt monkey!

Xander ,'Lessons'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Betsy HP - Aug 20, 2005 6:29:45 pm PDT #2868 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I'm still holding out for A Princess of Mars. Sulk.


Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:30:03 pm PDT #2869 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

everybody on the moon is insane and clustered in little communities which reinforce their craziness.

I thought that's what I was doing?


Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:31:34 pm PDT #2870 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

The other one I wanted to sink my fangs into was Bester's "The Stars My Destination."


Allyson - Aug 20, 2005 6:31:54 pm PDT #2871 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I thought that's what I was doing?

Maybe the other one doesn't have all that icky line marraige shit.

I can't remember, are you putting the line marraiges in there? If so, how are you going to soften the squick?


Kiba Rika - Aug 20, 2005 6:32:32 pm PDT #2872 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

You were one of them, so apparently, according to my new phone, you are dead to me.

An interesting turn around, that. "The 4th victim of my new phone was a man named Tim Minear."

I want to kick kittenish women in the teeth. It's a thing.

On further consideration, when I divorce "kittenish" from the rest of those adjectives you used, I kind of feel the same way. That whole "assertive" and "competent" part made me forget what "kittenish" actually means when referring to a person. I think I was thinking of "kitteny."

...Tim knows how I feel about AYNOHYEB. I don't think I've said it a lot, beyond, "It is very emotionally resonant for me." Maybe once. Commencing story (I'm gonna try and keep it short) -

My freshman year of college, I was diagnosed with clinical depression. WebMD was all, "If you have 2 or more of these symptoms for 2 weeks or longer, see your doctor," and I waited until I'd had 15 of them for 3 months before I did anything about it. By this time I was convinced that I was incapable of caring for myself - didn't really brush my hair, didn't do much besides homework, including eating. The most prominent symptom of the depression was an eternally criticizing voice in my head. AYNOHYEB aired about 9 months after I started taking anti-depressants, and it was like a message just for me - the Thesulac demon being physically embodied, after hearing it say all those horrible things. It made me sit up and take notice and say to myself, "This thing, it is NOT ME." And that was a revelation. Hence my love for the episode, which totally clouds my judgement about it on a structural/artistic level. (Though I might argue that the best art produces exactly that kind of emotion in people.)


Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:33:24 pm PDT #2873 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

The line marriages are in. I wasn't squicked by the idea. It's probably my favorite thing in the book. Endlessly interesting.


Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:35:05 pm PDT #2874 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Ge, Kiba, I don't think your judgement sounds clouded at all!


Betsy HP - Aug 20, 2005 6:35:42 pm PDT #2875 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

(Though I might argue that the best art produces exactly that kind of emotion in people.)

Yup. The best art resonates in ways the creator would never have predicted. Art can change people's lives. t /soapbox


DavidS - Aug 20, 2005 6:37:28 pm PDT #2876 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm still holding out for A Princess of Mars. Sulk.

Yeah!

I thought that's what I was doing?

Well, as long as you crazy it up.

The other one I wanted to sink my fangs into was Bester's "The Stars My Destination."

Fuck yeah! Tattoo his face!


Allyson - Aug 20, 2005 6:38:14 pm PDT #2877 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's probably my favorite thing in the book.

Please explain more. Whenever I think about grampa getting the first bite of the apple, I shudder.