Out. For. A. Walk. ... Bitch.

Spike ,'Selfless'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Gris - Aug 20, 2005 5:30:53 pm PDT #2839 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Ah. 'kay. Haven't read that one, then. Should I?

It's much better than the Lazarus Long books, especially the later ones. It's probably his best book, overall. I tend to think it is.

If you've read a LL book that involves his mother, you've seen the worst Heinlein has to offer in terms of his female characterization. In those books, even I got annoyed and sometimes offended, and I am both insensitive and have a long fuse, plus an unhealthy respect for Heinlein's writing. If you could handle those, at all, you should be fine with Wyoh in Moon.

If you're virulently anti-Libertarian, you may take issue with the overt political stance of the book, which is often grouped with Ayn Rand's stuff in the realm of Libertarian fiction.

Otherwise, though, it's a great work of the era, and totally worth the read. One of my all-time favorites.


DavidS - Aug 20, 2005 5:36:18 pm PDT #2840 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Kat, what about Mann's "The Last Of The Mohicans"?

aka, "The Running Movie." It's pretty spiff in a Big Romantic way, which is Joss' not-so-secret vice, so I can see how he'd like it.

The director's cut on DVD is kind of wonderful. And, and here I'm probably going to shame myself, but Joss dug it too, when I turned him onto it -- the musical 1776? I adore it.

Heh. Howard Da Silva was a close family friend of my ex-wife so I had to hear a lot of Howard Da Silva stories. Coolest though, was the episode of St. Elsewhere where William Daniels hummed one of the tunes from 1776 while walking down the hall. In that movie alone, you've got major characters for White Shadow, St. Elsewhere and Northern Exposure.

I love "Are You Now..." - my favorite Angel standalone. A perfect short movie, dark and noir and human.


Betsy HP - Aug 20, 2005 5:58:09 pm PDT #2841 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Howard da Silva was one of those actors who always guaranteed you a few moments of happy in the worst of movies. Another was Denholm Elliott.


Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:04:43 pm PDT #2842 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

My most beloved memories of Howard da Silva were from a thing in the, I guess 70's or 80's, called "The CBS Radio Mystery Theater." A throwback to old radio. And right up there with the best of the real thing. Hosted by E.G. Marshall. I listened every night as a kid. Made me want to be a radio drama writer.


Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:08:12 pm PDT #2843 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Yeah, re: "Are You Now..." I don't get at all how exploring the McCarthy thing is "trite." Or how my approach was trite. The literal 50's paranoia thing was so in the background and the engine of the piece was all done with metaphor. Almost the most direct metaphor I ever did on the show. Why is that trite? I remember seeing some post when it first aired that called the period cars "cliche." Uh... I do not think that word means what you think it means... funny how I can remember almost every negative thing ever posted about my work.


Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:09:16 pm PDT #2844 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Maybe it was trite because it was just another liberal Hollywood "help, I'm being oppressed" thing? That would be awesome!


Tim Minear - Aug 20, 2005 6:10:54 pm PDT #2845 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

D. -- you think "Moon" is better than "Stranger"?


Allyson - Aug 20, 2005 6:12:03 pm PDT #2846 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

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Betsy HP - Aug 20, 2005 6:15:20 pm PDT #2847 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Made me want to be a radio drama writer.

I wish you could. Hitchhiker's Guide made me so happy on radio.


CaBil - Aug 20, 2005 6:18:16 pm PDT #2848 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Serenity update

Can't tell you anything about the film, but at GenCon, the Serenity the RPG based on the movie is selling beaucoup numbers. They sold out yesterday and were going to airship more for today. Passed along to me from a colleague at the show.