also? so glad you're liking VM. i have pimped(and continue to pimp) that show like there's no tomorrow.

Dude! Tim needs to do a grass skirt pic.

i have pimped(and continue to pimp) that show like there's no tomorrow.

Veronica Mars does nothing for me at all

Also a first time watcher, loving the VM reruns. And I hate that they're skipping so many of them or at least it seems that way from the previouslies.

Veronica Mars does nothing for me at all

Me neither. I watched three or four eps, and then realized I had no interest in either the story or the characters.

Also a first time watcher, loving the VM reruns. And I hate that they're skipping so many of them or at least it seems that way from the previouslies.

Yeah, Wolfram, they went from episode 1 to episode 6 to episode 10, but I think they're getting to the point (episode 12) where the arc (well, one of many) kicks into high gear and they can't afford to skip any episodes. Soon, the rollercoaster will really begin.

Yeah, Wolfram, they went from episode 1 to episode 6 to episode 10...

Whaaaa? I thought I was just missing 2 or 3 episodes. I better get moving with the torrenting.

They're totally doing that so people buy the DVD set.

Which, of course, I will.

Different strokes, et al. I adore Veronica Mars. I might like The Inside more. I can't decide right now, because 3 vs 22 is too hard. I definitely like these Inside eps more than the first three VM eps, but the large plot-arc of VM makes that sort of thing kind of expectable, since it of course gets more interesting as the big mysteries become more important.

The Inside, much as I hate to express fears, still has the potential of getting stuck in its formula. Not that I think that's likely, but it could happen. With VM, I knew I'd always be at least a little interested as long as I could be promised solutions to the pilot-proposed mysteries, which of course meant I kept watching and eventually fell madly in love with the characters. All of them. The show no longer needs to offer me a big plot to keep me invested, because it has given me Scoobies, and I will always watch what they do.

Hopefully, I'll soon feel that way about The Inside. At the moment, my love is pretty much entirely for the concepts and the writing, not the characters as such: I find them interesting, but can't drunkenly talk about them as if they were family members, as I've been known to do for Veronica, Logan, Willow, Xander, Buffy, Giles, Angel, Fred, et cetera.

I caught the second half of a VM episode this weekend (obviously not enough for much of a judgement) but was not particularly "grabbed" by it. It annoyed the crap outta me that Veronica could lay out all the details of how the crime went down at the end despite the audience not seeing HOW she came to those conclusions. Maybe I missed something early, but it seemed like she was just pulling stuff outta thin air.

I'll give a full ep another chance sometime, though.

I thought I was just missing 2 or 3 episodes.

The episodes between 1 and 6 aren't megaimportant for the overall arc (there's a small storyline that resolves and doesn't get touched on overtly for the rest of the season), but most of us are sad that you missed out on episode 4, "The Wrath of Con," which has kind of a lame MOTW but is notable for its wonderful flashbacks that really give you a sense of what kind of friends Duncan and Lilly and Veronica and Logan were. It's only unfortunate that they skipped episode 8, "Like a Virgin," since it introduces Meg and Mac, two important recurring characters. I hope the previouslies are at least keeping the viewers apprised of the clues in the various mysteries. If not, there's always Mars Investigations.

It annoyed the crap outta me that Veronica could lay out all the details of how the crime went down at the end despite the audience not seeing HOW she came to those conclusions. Maybe I missed something early, but it seemed like she was just pulling stuff outta thin air.

That may be because you only saw the second half, though. The first half provided all the clues necessary for her to come to those conclusions. She eliminated suspects until only one was left, to whom evidence did in fact point.