I'm a single undead gal trying to make it in the big city. I have to start somewhere and they're evil here. They don't judge. They've got necro-tempered glass. No burning up. A great medical plan, and who needs dental more than us?

Harmony ,'Conviction (1)'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2005 9:21:04 am PDT #1563 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I guess "Jump the Shark" choice depends on your definition. The show's best moment to me was the end of "Reunion," so everything was technically downhill from that point (though still very very good). There was a marked drop in quality with the Pylea arc, which ended the series' golden age. But I agree with Hec that the Crapture in "Tomorrow" was the absolute lowest point.

Given that I don't think anyone considers the shark jump episode of Happy Days to be its zeneith, I've always used the term for the "abandon all hope" moment for a show - the point where it's never going to be any good ever again. The crapture came close, but there were enough fun season 5 episodes to have me think that it ever really reached the point of no return.

For a good example, I've always liked the X-Files as a show that once it reached a certain point, there was no reason to keep watching. I'm tempted to say that point was the movie, and how the season after seemed to be trying to contradict/take back/retcon everything the movie seemed to tell us.


Nicklas - Jul 18, 2005 9:34:06 am PDT #1564 of 10001
"Either it's murder, or this library has a very strict overdue policy."

Wow. A cult of five. We won't need much Kool Aid.

I can't speak for the rest, but when I get on a Kool Aid binge I want a lot of it.


Allyson - Jul 18, 2005 9:37:16 am PDT #1565 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Um, Nicklas, about the Kool Aid...

nevermind.


§ ita § - Jul 18, 2005 9:40:39 am PDT #1566 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You only really drink the one cup.


Allyson - Jul 18, 2005 9:45:34 am PDT #1567 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

ita, you'll be pleased to know that yours is the essay that makes everyone say, "oh wow" when I describe the book.


§ ita § - Jul 18, 2005 9:49:16 am PDT #1568 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dude, it makes me go "oh, wow" myself. Because I still can't believe it.


Nicklas - Jul 18, 2005 9:58:24 am PDT #1569 of 10001
"Either it's murder, or this library has a very strict overdue policy."

You only really drink the one cup.

Bah!

I just read the guardian article. He can't have watched a single episode. Becky "striding with perfect posture"? When?


tiggy - Jul 18, 2005 10:08:51 am PDT #1570 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'll agree with liking Connor when he made his return in season five. his character did a complete 180 though.


Anne W. - Jul 18, 2005 11:17:20 am PDT #1571 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

If baby connor had just disappeared into Quortoth, I would have been okay with it all. I hated VK Connor so much.

I still kind of wish that they'd done something along of the fic I wrote after Holtz and baby disappeared.

I swore that the entire Connor arc was Minear's way of scaring us all into double bagging.

And, snerk!


Allyson - Jul 18, 2005 11:18:21 am PDT #1572 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Tim makes causes concerned moms to wring hands AND give us free man rape.