Xander: How? What? How? Giles: Three excellent questions.

Xander/Giles ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Aims - Jul 13, 2005 10:44:33 am PDT #9621 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Do ya think Rove got Uncle Phillip headslapped by Dubya?


Nutty - Jul 13, 2005 10:46:17 am PDT #9622 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

How would you explain, as simply as possible, to these children why their teacher is apparently lying to them?

I have thought much on this, because I was the one in the class saying, Yeah but --. Here is my answer:

Too much math at one time will make your head spin. We make you learn it in steps to avoid head-spinning, the same way that you can play touch football and then graduate to helmets and pads and tackling when you're ready. Touch football is a perfectly fun game to play, and it works as a game, but there are things you're just not allowed to do. Next year, when you've mastered all the skills touch football can give you, you'll be allowed to try on the helmet and the hard questions like "what are negative bananas?"*

Be patient, play the game we're asking you to play, and when you've practiced enough, we'll extend the rules.

(*) I had a very long conversation, at about age 11, on the subject of subtracting 5 bananas from 3 bananas, and I really had trouble with counting around the number zero. We talked about negative bananas for, like, hours. I am no good at counting to this day.


Emily - Jul 13, 2005 10:47:06 am PDT #9623 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Instead of telling them it can't be done, how 'bout telling them, "We're just not going to do that now."

Oh, I'm not doing it (as I have chosen the dubious pleasures of adolescents over those of small children) -- this is what, in my theoretical lesson, would be a test question (or a discussion question, I'm not sure yet). That is to say, the 9th graders would have to think of a way to explain it to first graders. The elementary school teachers are on their own.


Gudanov - Jul 13, 2005 10:48:16 am PDT #9624 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Do ya think Rove got Uncle Phillip headslapped by Dubya?

Dubya probably needs to consult with Rove about the Rove situation, so it really comes down to whether Rove is a masochist.


Jesse - Jul 13, 2005 10:51:15 am PDT #9625 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yay, Emily.


Emily - Jul 13, 2005 10:51:48 am PDT #9626 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Also: I agree, that's totally the way to do it. Although... part of the point of my theoretical lesson plan involves the fact that those teachers aren't actually lying. What they're saying is true for that system. But it would be better, especially if you have students who already know (often from the incontrovertible supreme authority of their parents, siblings, or Books) that you can so do that, would be to explain about the systems. I don't know much about elementary education, so I'm not sure what the best way to go about it would be, but pretty much any explanation is better than "no you can't."


Emily - Jul 13, 2005 10:53:16 am PDT #9627 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Oh, also I'm kind of having trouble finding Web pages which talk about the whole idea of "different number systems" aside from just defining them. If anyone comes up with a good, not-too-complicated page about it, could you let me know? Or, for that matter, if you've got something you think should be said about the topic, also let me know!


shrift - Jul 13, 2005 10:59:11 am PDT #9628 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

HOCKEY!

Oh gawd - an animated .gif that had me laughing outloud: Love your job

Heh. This has been me, like, every day this week!

Signed,
Yesterday Was Monday In A Tuesday Suit And Today Is The Day That Never Ends It Goes On And On My Friend


Daisy Jane - Jul 13, 2005 11:01:06 am PDT #9629 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Hmm. I'm trying to think of a situation in which a child would have one set of rules for one thing and another for something else.

Like maybe bedtime during school days, and bedtime on weekends.

What time is your bedtime? It depends on whether we are using weekday rules or weekend rules. The set of numbers we're using are like weekday rules, stricter so that we can play with the weekend numbers.


Emily - Jul 13, 2005 11:03:30 am PDT #9630 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Or a doll with bendy knees versus one without. They're both dolls, but you can't bend the knees of one. You can break them, but you can't make them be bendy. And besides, the doll doesn't owe you that much money.