A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nutty - Jul 13, 2005 9:00:28 am PDT #9566 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The hockey lockout was basically one long tarantella danced on the head of the players' union, it seemed to me. I kept hearing the terms for the players going down, down, down, and thought, the baseball players' assn. would kick their asses.

Of course, I'm one of those people who heartily awaits the day that players get a percentage of the stadium gross as their pay. I think that's 4 or 5 strikes from now, though.


Anne W. - Jul 13, 2005 9:18:01 am PDT #9567 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Italy is a world leader in animal rights law. Since 1991 it has been illegal to kill healthy dogs and cats living in shelters.

I did not know this. This makes me happy.

I'm also happy that hockey is back, esp. now that I am living in St. Louis again. Going to Blues games was a big treat during my high-school years.


JohnSweden - Jul 13, 2005 9:26:58 am PDT #9568 of 10001
I can't even.

NHL, NHLPA reach tentative deal

FFS. At long last. Stoopid players' association couldn't see how doomed doomed doomed they were from the start.

Teppy's reaction kinda sums up exactly how stupid this whole thing was. Start again from scratch on the whole penetrating the american market thing, boys. Trampoline basketball is ahead of you again.


Gudanov - Jul 13, 2005 9:28:22 am PDT #9569 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Hey another guy who thinks Rove should get a medal.

From "Scarborough Country"

Full Transcript: [link]

(Funny and crazy Harry Potter stuff before the crazy Rove stuff)

SCARBOROUGH: Now to the storm over the president's top adviser, Karl Rove. Did he leak classified information to a reporter, and should he be bounced from the White House?

With me now to talk about that is Congressman Peter King.

Thank you so much for being with us, Congressman.

It's a fascinating case. And I just got to start by saying, you and I served together during the Clinton administration. We attacked the Clinton administration for not taking national security more seriously. I got to just tell you, I mean, bottom line is, if Clinton's chief of staff or top adviser had leaked the identity of a CIA agent, you and I would be up in arms and say, Clinton had to fire that person immediately.

Should Karl Rove be treated at the same standard?

REP. PETER KING ®, NEW YORK: No, in fact, I think Karl Rove should get a medal, Joe. I really mean that.

I think this is much do about nothing, because let's look at the facts very clearly.

SCARBOROUGH: For revealing a CIA agent's identity?

KING: First of all, it's only a crime if she was undercover, if he knew she was undercover, and he did it deliberately.

I think, Joe, this thing was such a hoax. Joe Wilson was a shameless self-promoter. Everything about his story was either a lie or a hoax or he was incompetent. And when Karl Rove—even just looking at the e-mail. If you are talking to a reporter and you have someone like Joe Wilson, who was totally discrediting the president of the United States, unfairly and untruthfully, and you say, how come this guy was sent over to do this?

And to say, you know, looking at the fact that he is—was sent over

by his wife, who was in the CIA.

SCARBOROUGH: All right, Congressman. Hold on. Let me just stop you right there, Congressman King.

KING: Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: I agree with you. Joe Wilson is a joke. He lied about who sent him over there. He lied about what he found over there. And when he came back home...

KING: Also about the conclusions, exactly.

SCARBOROUGH: Hold it a second. When he came back home, he lied and wrote a book that, ironically, was called “The Politics of Truth.”

KING: Right. Right.

SCARBOROUGH: That still doesn't justify Karl Rove or anybody—and we don't know if Rove did it for sure—but justify the outing of CIA agent, does it?

KING: It's only wrong if he knew that she was undercover and that the CIA was making every attempt to keep her undercover. He didn't give her name. He didn't know she was undercover.


Daisy Jane - Jul 13, 2005 9:34:01 am PDT #9570 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

If you are talking to a reporter and you have someone like Joe Wilson, who was totally discrediting the president of the United States, unfairly and untruthfully, and you say, how come this guy was sent over to do this?

And to say, you know, looking at the fact that he is—was sent over

by his wife, who was in the CIA.

SCARBOROUGH: All right, Congressman. Hold on. Let me just stop you right there, Congressman King.

KING: Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: I agree with you. Joe Wilson is a joke. He lied about who sent him over there. He lied about what he found over there. And when he came back home...

KING: Also about the conclusions, exactly.

Discredited the president unfairly and lied about what he found over there? So the WMD are where then, exactly?

I mean really, this crap's pretty funny. Well, their reactions are, not so much the outing of a CIA agent for political payback.


Trudy Booth - Jul 13, 2005 9:36:23 am PDT #9571 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Trudy! In the kitchen at work, there's a box of Jersey Shore saltwater taffy! My co-worker who went on vacation last week did NOT, apparently, go to North Carolina, like I assumed -- she went to Ocean City. The taffy is all soft and perfect. Yum.

And its VEGAN!


Daisy Jane - Jul 13, 2005 9:38:17 am PDT #9572 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Getting nervous again. Should I call now, or wait until 2. I don't want to be playing phone tag with this woman.


Theodosia - Jul 13, 2005 9:39:44 am PDT #9573 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

One of the op-ed writers in the Globe pointed out that Rove almost surely lied to investigators under oath -- claiming he didn't know Plame's name when he referred to her as "Wilson's wife." That's called perjury.


tommyrot - Jul 13, 2005 9:45:41 am PDT #9574 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Has this been posted? XENU EXPRESSES DISPLEASURE WITH CRUISE

Alien overlord says star is making Scientologists look “crazy”

Hollywood - Xenu, the galactic overlord who murdered trillions of aliens on Earth 75 million years ago, releasing the thetan particles that still infect humanity today according to the Church of Scientology, has reportedly returned to express his displeasure with the recent behavior of Tom Cruise. “I expect celebrity devotees of my Church to spread my message through charity work and quality films like ‘Battlefield Earth,’” Xenu said in an interview with The Weekly World. “Attacking Brooke Shields and marrying some girl you met six weeks ago makes Scientologists look crazy.”

But that whole article is premised on Scientology being Xenu's chuch. That ain't so, is it?


tommyrot - Jul 13, 2005 9:46:56 am PDT #9575 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Breaking news:

Chief Justice Rehnquist hospitalized for a fever, court spokeswoman says