Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Jul 13, 2005 7:59:23 am PDT #9494 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Totally. Most of the showers I've been to have been basically a lot like a tea party. This is why multiples seem natural to me - you might have one that's mostly the old ladies who were your grandmother's close friends or something, and maybe a different one for relatives or the groom or for people who are your own contemporaries, etc. And appropriate gifts tend to be along the lines of kitchen gadgets or notepaper, unless there a specific theme involved. But still, nothing that would be a big deal for anyone to buy, or make them feel like they're on the hook for two wedding presents.

Yes! You might end up with a lingerie shower from your friends and a kitchen shower from your aunties (lord help us, not the other way around). My Mom had one with a "Missouri Box" (they lived in Missouri) where all her co-workers brought canned goods with the labels peeled off so your new kitchen had a bunch of food but it was a total crap shoot as to what you might end up eating on a given night.


Jesse - Jul 13, 2005 8:02:10 am PDT #9495 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

This is more or less true here, depending on the customs of the families.

That varies widely.


Sheryl - Jul 13, 2005 8:04:48 am PDT #9496 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Adding my own wedding experiences...

I've been a bridesmaid twice. The first one, I had to buy the dress(which wasn't all that bad. It was black, and I had it shortened to cocktail length after the ceremony) and be at the wedding.(Since my brother and his fiancee lived in NYC and I was in NC, they understood me not attending the bridal shower) The second one I wore a dress I had bought previously, since it was the color I was assigned.(Each of the bride's attendants was assigned a color, based on what they looked good in)I brought food and helped decorate for the shower.

I had one bridal shower, which was thrown by my Matron of Honor, and was quite low-key. Snacks, a few games and unwrapping gifts. My bachelorette party was me and three friends at Dave & Buster's playing videogames and skee-ball. I gave my female attendants(I didn't have bridesmaids, just the MoH and huppah bearers) gift certificates to a spa.(Male attendants got money clips with their monograms engraved on it)

We ended up with ~160 people at the wedding, and I thought that was a lot. Guess not...


-t - Jul 13, 2005 8:05:17 am PDT #9497 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

To haul out the pedant for a moment, unless the people from the Renaissance are having an "Olden Tymes" party, chainmail is pretty much gone from the armoury by then, depending on where you are and when. Transitional plate and full plate has replaced chainmail almost everywhere by that time (depending on how you define Renaissance and where/when you are). Both would still be reasonably effective at protecting an astronaut suit from swords, to bring the discussion back to the purposeful and sensible origins.

Well, to be fair, the chainmail requirement came before the Renaissance theme. But I'll leave it up to tommyrot which is more important. It's his big day on Mars, after all.

I will buy a present for a shower, but I always give a check as a gift, or part of it.

But that's what the money dance is for!


Jessica - Jul 13, 2005 8:05:35 am PDT #9498 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

This is more or less true here, depending on the customs of the families.

That varies widely.

Personally, I wouldn't think very much of getting money as a wedding gift. It seems a little tacky.


Gudanov - Jul 13, 2005 8:05:54 am PDT #9499 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

From FoxNew's Jon Gibson, "Rove should get a medal". [link]


Volans - Jul 13, 2005 8:07:11 am PDT #9500 of 10001
move out and draw fire

"Rove should get a medal".

To pin his lips shut. ARGH!


Scrappy - Jul 13, 2005 8:07:52 am PDT #9501 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Personally, I wouldn't think very much of getting money as a wedding gift. It seems a little tacky.

It'a cultural thing. Some cultures see it as the best possible gift, as the new couple will probably be putting toward something like a house. In my WASPy family it would be Not Done.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 13, 2005 8:07:54 am PDT #9502 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I have been MoH once, for my sister. Never a bridesmaid.

I have been to one wedding shower, for my sister. I threw a Bachelorette Party weekend at Foxwoods for her, along with my cousins. It was on the expensive side, and I hope we weren't assholes about it. Man, I forgot about that. Yikes!

I abstained from all shower and bachelorette party experience with my own wedding, 'cause, eloped.


Jesse - Jul 13, 2005 8:09:42 am PDT #9503 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It'a cultural thing. Some cultures see it as the best possible gift, as the new couple will probably be putting toward something like a house.

Or the wedding.

OK, so do I let my Thursday boss know that I've seen the frantic emails, or do I pretend I don't check that account when I'm not there? WHAT TO DO???