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Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Jul 01, 2005 7:47:15 am PDT #6322 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

ita's princess waist is mine. I would call that a natural waist, also, which might be wrong.


tommyrot - Jul 01, 2005 8:00:25 am PDT #6323 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

So, like, what kind of raises are folks in the IT industry getting? I only got 2% this year. My bosses say that's because they bought this building a year ago and have yet to find a tennant to rent it (we only use about 1/4th of the space).

So I'm annoyed, but then again, the way things are going in the IT job market I realize the days of 10% raises are long gone....


Scrappy - Jul 01, 2005 8:00:35 am PDT #6324 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I'm trying to work out why terminology never seemed to be an issue when I took that fashion drawing course

Maybe that's because the terminology was being defined by the teacher? I remember college tech classes and I know I still call things by the names I first learned there, even though there are alternate names for many of them.


Connie Neil - Jul 01, 2005 8:04:13 am PDT #6325 of 10001
brillig

I think Souter was Poppy's little "fuck you" to the neo-cons

It's a strange, strange day when I find myself missing George the Elder. He, at least, would have probably respected the CIA reportage. And now he and Bill (damn, I miss Bill) are the niftiest odd couple of politics. Apparently Barbara calls Bill "son".


Sophia Brooks - Jul 01, 2005 8:06:03 am PDT #6326 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Empire waist: (from the Empire period) [link]

I have never heard of a princess waist, just princess seams:

[link]


-t - Jul 01, 2005 8:06:57 am PDT #6327 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Apparently Barbara calls Bill "son".

Seriously? That's...I have no words.


sarameg - Jul 01, 2005 8:07:14 am PDT #6328 of 10001

So, like, what kind of raises are folks in the IT industry getting?

I'm not industry, really (I am, but I'm subcontracted to academia on the east coast, so who the hell knows).... With the exception of one really bad year for everyone (I think the best raise for super-duper-saving-the-world type work was a merit raise of 3% that go around), it is usually 4-5%. I don't know about this year, but considering the budget cuts, it might be another 1.5% year. If I get one at all.


Nutty - Jul 01, 2005 8:10:46 am PDT #6329 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I still sometimes call art history terms by their Spanish equivalents, because I never learned the English (actually, Italian) words for them.

what I think of when I'm thinking princess waist

That woman looks way too orgasmic to wear white to her wedding.

I would be more willing to agree that's a princess waist if that image weren't a strapless dress, but in the main I don't disagree. (Although you can wear a strapless dress that doesn't have that kind of seams, I don't think I recommend it.) The point, in my mind, was that a princess waist and an empire waist both cinch directly below the bust (horizontally or vertically). After which they generally do go on to do different things.

(I think that actual Empire empire waists are the ones that are shapeless sacks from the bustline down, or anyway so I'm led to believe from Jan Austen movies. I have a very nice modern empire-waisted dress that also shows hips, although moreso since I took a sewing machine to it.)

And if I ever had clothes tailored (aside from my own half-assed attempts), I would probably (a) look way hotter than I do and (b) be a lot less muddled in the conversation.


§ ita § - Jul 01, 2005 8:14:14 am PDT #6330 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe that's because the terminology was being defined by the teacher?

No, because if there had been terminology, I wouldn't be asking all these dumb questions. I just don't think it came up.

Raises? I've been in this job three years, and have had about a 15-20% cumulative raise, but that includes a promotion.


Tom Scola - Jul 01, 2005 8:15:01 am PDT #6331 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

So, like, what kind of raises are folks in the IT industry getting?

Raise? So far, every job I've had has been:

    • Get hired at a certain salary.
    • After a year or two, get a sizeable raise when they realize I'm not an idiot.
    • From there on out, tiny COLA adjustments.
    • Get a new job at a much higher salary.