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Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2005 1:24:55 pm PDT #3867 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

M’Mburugu had a machete in one hand but dropped that to thrust his fist down the leopard’s mouth. He gradually managed to pull out the animal’s tongue, leaving it in its death-throes.

And I thought Conan biting the vulture was badass.


askye - Jun 22, 2005 1:25:14 pm PDT #3868 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

The paper had an article about the flag burning amendment the other day. The side bar listed all of the things that shouldn't be done to the flag -- print it on paper, wear it as clothes, etc. The question was raised in the article that if the amendment passed would all these rules be enforced. I'm sure the article was off the AP wire, so someone must have seen something similiar.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 22, 2005 1:26:45 pm PDT #3869 of 10001
What is even happening?

I detest flag burning. I also think that every time some protester burns my flag, it makes it stronger.


Jesse - Jun 22, 2005 1:29:14 pm PDT #3870 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The side bar listed all of the things that shouldn't be done to the flag -- print it on paper, wear it as clothes, etc.

It does kill me that I'm sure (edit: some) people who support the flag burning amendment use flag paper napkins and stuff for their Fourth of July party.


Wolfram - Jun 22, 2005 1:34:43 pm PDT #3871 of 10001
Visilurking

I don't even understand the rationale. In this country you're allowed to exercise all sorts of freedom of speech against any and all branches of government short of what may be construed as threatening behavior. So you can burn pictures of the president and even print superimposed supreme court justice faces on naked bodies.

So what is the deal?


Jesse - Jun 22, 2005 1:36:31 pm PDT #3872 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So you can burn pictures of the president and even print superimposed supreme court justice faces on naked bodies.

Well, those would be against the person, not the office, at least. It's one thing to say "I hate George Bush," something different to say "I hate America." Not that I think either should be outlawed.


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2005 1:38:29 pm PDT #3873 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Flag burning will probably lose some of its cachet when it's clear it's legal. Decreased shock value, and all that.


megan walker - Jun 22, 2005 1:39:36 pm PDT #3874 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

What cracks me up about the flag-burning amendment is that burning is the proper way to dispose of a flag that is too worn or damaged to be displayed.


Wolfram - Jun 22, 2005 1:42:50 pm PDT #3875 of 10001
Visilurking

Well, those would be against the person, not the office, at least. It's one thing to say "I hate George Bush," something different to say "I hate America." Not that I think either should be outlawed.

But outlawing flag burning doesn't outlaw saying "I hate America." You can sell T-shirts with that slogan, even if this amendment passes.

I'm just trying to understand why 64 Senators (including 9? dems,) can rationalize backing this amendment.


-t - Jun 22, 2005 1:43:01 pm PDT #3876 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

What cracks me up about the flag-burning amendment is that burning is the proper way to dispose of a flag that is too worn or damaged to be displayed.

Yeah, I always think of that, too.

And I get extremely annoyed at people who let their flags stay out in the rain, or up at night with no lighting. If you're going fly the flag, follow the rules.