Wash: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction. Zoe: We live in a space ship, dear. Wash: So?

'Objects In Space'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 22, 2005 1:29:14 pm PDT #3870 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The side bar listed all of the things that shouldn't be done to the flag -- print it on paper, wear it as clothes, etc.

It does kill me that I'm sure (edit: some) people who support the flag burning amendment use flag paper napkins and stuff for their Fourth of July party.


Wolfram - Jun 22, 2005 1:34:43 pm PDT #3871 of 10001
Visilurking

I don't even understand the rationale. In this country you're allowed to exercise all sorts of freedom of speech against any and all branches of government short of what may be construed as threatening behavior. So you can burn pictures of the president and even print superimposed supreme court justice faces on naked bodies.

So what is the deal?


Jesse - Jun 22, 2005 1:36:31 pm PDT #3872 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So you can burn pictures of the president and even print superimposed supreme court justice faces on naked bodies.

Well, those would be against the person, not the office, at least. It's one thing to say "I hate George Bush," something different to say "I hate America." Not that I think either should be outlawed.


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2005 1:38:29 pm PDT #3873 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Flag burning will probably lose some of its cachet when it's clear it's legal. Decreased shock value, and all that.


megan walker - Jun 22, 2005 1:39:36 pm PDT #3874 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

What cracks me up about the flag-burning amendment is that burning is the proper way to dispose of a flag that is too worn or damaged to be displayed.


Wolfram - Jun 22, 2005 1:42:50 pm PDT #3875 of 10001
Visilurking

Well, those would be against the person, not the office, at least. It's one thing to say "I hate George Bush," something different to say "I hate America." Not that I think either should be outlawed.

But outlawing flag burning doesn't outlaw saying "I hate America." You can sell T-shirts with that slogan, even if this amendment passes.

I'm just trying to understand why 64 Senators (including 9? dems,) can rationalize backing this amendment.


-t - Jun 22, 2005 1:43:01 pm PDT #3876 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

What cracks me up about the flag-burning amendment is that burning is the proper way to dispose of a flag that is too worn or damaged to be displayed.

Yeah, I always think of that, too.

And I get extremely annoyed at people who let their flags stay out in the rain, or up at night with no lighting. If you're going fly the flag, follow the rules.


Sheryl - Jun 22, 2005 1:45:02 pm PDT #3877 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Congrats amych and (new) DH!

Trying to figure out why I'm still feeling unsettled about the house buying. I guess I was expecting something more formal, so that I know this is our house. G is very zen about all this but a)he's been through house buying before and b)he's got enough stress at work that worrying about the house isn't even registering. Argh...


Katie M - Jun 22, 2005 1:45:18 pm PDT #3878 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I don't even understand the rationale. In this country you're allowed to exercise all sorts of freedom of speech against any and all branches of government short of what may be construed as threatening behavior. So you can burn pictures of the president and even print superimposed supreme court justice faces on naked bodies.

So what is the deal?

"Hey, you, the liberals are coming and they HATE AMERICA! Don't you want to PROTECT AMERICA from the LIBERALS? I do!"

I have to admit, when I saw they were trotting this puppy out again I found myself thinking "I thought they had gay marriage for that now." But apparently not.


-t - Jun 22, 2005 1:46:07 pm PDT #3879 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Congratulations, Sheryl! It'll feel like your house eventually, I'm sure.