Yesterday, my life's like, 'Uh-oh, pop quiz!' Today it's like, 'rain of toads.'

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Jun 20, 2005 6:02:14 pm PDT #3271 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Connie Neil - Jun 20, 2005 6:12:38 pm PDT #3272 of 10001
brillig

I remember "pope's nose" from my childhood, and my mother would have meant it offensively. Poor woman, I wonder how many opportunities slipped by when she forgot to inculcate us with her prejudices because she was too busy.

I've heard "jew you down" and "mighty white of you" used in straight-forward conversation by people who don't have the word irony in their vocabulary, and it was years before I realized what they meant. "Gyp" was used so casually I had no idea it referred to Gypsies.

"Indian summer" was always presented to us as the last chance to get your harvest in, somehow involving Indians because they knew they'd get a last patch of good weather so they didn't have to collect the crops too early, ie, showing off their land-savvy and bucolic wisdom. I learned recently that it's meant to be insulting in that it's a trick, not really summer.


Steph L. - Jun 20, 2005 6:12:39 pm PDT #3273 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What does "pope's nose" = "chicken butt" mean in a derogatory sense? I can't suss it out.


Trudy Booth - Jun 20, 2005 6:17:59 pm PDT #3274 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I googled "indian summer". There are a lot of theories, not many of them offensive.


Scrappy - Jun 20, 2005 6:20:32 pm PDT #3275 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I think it's that you pick the dirty part of the chicken, the part that you throw away, and call it after the most respected guy in the church.


Steph L. - Jun 20, 2005 6:22:43 pm PDT #3276 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I think it's that you pick the dirty part of the chicken, the part that you throw away, and call it after the most respected guy in the church.

It's just so....random. Huh.


brenda m - Jun 20, 2005 6:32:36 pm PDT #3277 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think it's that you pick the dirty part of the chicken, the part that you throw away, and call it after the most respected guy in the church.

Oh. Huh.

I always thought it was an appearance thing - it's kind of bulbous and red. What offense there may be I think is in an implication of drunkenness.


aurelia - Jun 20, 2005 6:40:00 pm PDT #3278 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Oh good LORD. I take it all back!!! No one click that link!!

Too late. I'm trying to figure out how to collect my brain matter. I was unfamiliar with that website so I skimmed the bio/faq and a couple of links. It was too much for my skull to contain.


tommyrot - Jun 20, 2005 6:43:51 pm PDT #3279 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Also, the various "Dutch" phrases, like Dutch treat and going Dutch, are based on a stereotype of the Dutch along the same lines as "Indian summer".

eta: I somehow missed 25 posts....


Emily - Jun 20, 2005 6:46:36 pm PDT #3280 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

There are a lot of theories, not many of them offensive.

Huh. Well, what do I know. I myself associated it with "Indian giver" -- that probably would have made a better analogy. I think it's the one I meant to use, honestly. So, er, I don't know about Indian summer. Feel free to Google.