Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Jun 20, 2005 3:51:46 pm PDT #3219 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Also, honestly, I do believe there are people who use "Jew down" without ever thinking about it having anything to do with, you know, Jews.

I can't wrap my head around that. I don't really want to.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 20, 2005 3:51:53 pm PDT #3220 of 10001
What is even happening?

Joo? Gew? Djue?

Chew. That is, that's what I'd always thought I'd heard, until someone said it in front of me, and then someone else commented how bigoted it was, and then I said, "Oh, it's so not 'chew' is it?" I didn't hear the expression until I was in college, though.

Ditto, "That's mighty white of you." Granted, I had heard of that one, but I'd never heard it spoken aloud, until someone I'd never thought of as a bigot said it. We were close enough, that I asked her straight out if she knew what she was saying. It turns out she hadn't known--had never given it a thought, and was completely humiliated.


brenda m - Jun 20, 2005 3:57:58 pm PDT #3221 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ditto, "That's mighty white of you."

Oh yeah, that was a shocker the first time I heard it actually said.


Jesse - Jun 20, 2005 4:05:31 pm PDT #3222 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, lord -- my friend's father said, after we finally got furniture in our apartment after a summer of sitting on the floor, "Now you're living like white people!" Um, OK.

I also discovered this weekend that my friend's fiance is racist, which was kind of dispiriting. Especially since she's not white. He had a problem with the woman at the desk and extrapolated to black women in general. I just said, "Well, there are a lot of crappy people in service jobs in general..." and kind of left it at that, but UGH. I am with you, Robin.


askye - Jun 20, 2005 4:10:03 pm PDT #3223 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I don't think I've ever heard "that's mighty white of you."

"That's mighty big of you" or "that's might nice of you" but never "that's might white of you."

Unless someone said it and my brain interperted it as "mighty nice of you" keeping me from going ballistic on the person who said it.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2005 4:12:26 pm PDT #3224 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love "that's mighty white of you," but never have encountered it used unsarcastically IRL.

Robin, without knowing the guy I can't say if he meant the two things separately. Because if I recognise that talking back at the screen is a cultural thing for some people, and therefore don't want to make them stop, so somewhere for those who are doing it as a cultural thing and those who are doing it just because why the fuck not -- I'm down with it. As long as all black people don't have to watch movies there, and white folk aren't barred.


Jesse - Jun 20, 2005 4:13:39 pm PDT #3225 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Sometimes I hate going to the movies where no one is reacting, and sometimes I hate going to the movies where everyone is talking back. And those things definitely aren't 100% racially correllated.


sumi - Jun 20, 2005 4:18:58 pm PDT #3226 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think it depends on the movie and the reaction.

I mean, when the reaction makes sense with what's happening on-screen -- okay. But when it's completely extraneous (Rudy!) no.

Also, people just talking through the movie isn't the same as reacting to it.

And in movie-related news: that King Kong preview thingy? Was that tonight? Was it between 7:59 and 8:02 central? Or an hour later?

Because I attempted to tape it and got nothing.

(Meanwhile, I just caught the fluffy cat eating the gray cat's food. She is completely unrepentent.)


Sue - Jun 20, 2005 4:20:32 pm PDT #3227 of 10001
hip deep in pie

that's mighty white of you

I don't think I understand this. Is it supposed to be an insult on white people or condescending to non-whites.

I think there's a special hell for those who talk in the theatre.


Jesse - Jun 20, 2005 4:23:51 pm PDT #3228 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, people just talking through the movie isn't the same as reacting to it.

Sure, but I've definitely been in theaters where the reaction to the previous scene spilled over so you couldn't hear the next few lines. Of course, sometimes that has been me laughing too hard to stop....