You're right. He's evil. But you should see him naked. I mean really!

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Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2005 9:02:42 am PDT #3114 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it may take a while to get your 401K high enough to make it worthwhile borrowing from it.

It may also take a while for housing here to be remotely affordable, so that's not a big issue for me in West LA.

I need to check our rules.

This is my plan, anyway.

Are you saving post tax, or pre?

Maybe Carrot Top?

::resists the smart-assed remark, but almost kills self doing so::


tommyrot - Jun 20, 2005 9:03:45 am PDT #3115 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

::resists the smart-assed remark, but almost kills self doing so::

What, is he already a zombie?


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2005 9:04:45 am PDT #3116 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What, is he already a zombie?

No, I was just resisting (and this counts, because I haven't used her name and his in the same post) wondering if we had someone who'd been closely linked to the Top right here.


bon bon - Jun 20, 2005 9:08:41 am PDT #3117 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Are you saving post tax, or pre?

Post. I would be wary about what happens to a loan againt your 401k if you leave your job.

Also, I can read, and I am so going to kill you. I am not linked to any fucking celebrities!


DXMachina - Jun 20, 2005 9:08:47 am PDT #3118 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

DX has described this process to me -- borrowing from your own 401K. And because you're paying yourself back with interest, you're only benefitting yourself.

Yup. I did this to borrow the down payment for my house, and when that was paid off, I took out a new loan to pay off the cradit card bills I ran up once I bought the money pit, since I was already acclimateded to having the payments deducted from my paycheck. Far better to be paying the interest to yourself than to a bank.

The rules on our 401K don't specify what the loan has to be for.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2005 9:11:05 am PDT #3119 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would be wary about what happens to a loan againt your 401k if you leave your job.

I hate money. I really do.

I can read, and I am so going to kill you. I am not linked to any fucking celebrities!

Pshaw. You're just projecting. I'm totally not talking about you.


DXMachina - Jun 20, 2005 9:12:04 am PDT #3120 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I would be wary about what happens to a loan againt your 401k if you leave your job.

That is a concern. The loan period is typically five years (unless it's for a house, when it can go longer). If you leave the plan before then, the loan comes due immediately. I assume that if you can't pay it off, it becomes an early withdrawal, so there will be penalties and taxes. My job is stable, and I pretty much plan to stay here til I retire, so it's not a problem for me.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2005 9:16:39 am PDT #3121 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The loan period is typically five years (unless it's for a house, when it can go longer).

Well, so much for that. My job is stable, but it's just not normal to be around that long, given I have no idea when the bubble would burst (like 4 years from now, or whatever).

I'll just put away some pre-tax, but not with house in mind. I can borrow against it anyway, to supplement, I guess.

Just think -- if I had more money, I could get a financial advisor to do this instead.


brenda m - Jun 20, 2005 9:23:13 am PDT #3122 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I would be wary about what happens to a loan againt your 401k if you leave your job.

That is a concern. The loan period is typically five years (unless it's for a house, when it can go longer). If you leave the plan before then, the loan comes due immediately. I assume that if you can't pay it off, it becomes an early withdrawal, so there will be penalties and taxes. My job is stable, and I pretty much plan to stay here til I retire, so it's not a problem for me.

For a mortgage, you can generally take a disbursement, rather than a loan, without penalty. So leaving a job doesn't factor in. On a loan, you're right, whatever's outstanding needs to be paid back (I believe within the tax year) or it becomes the bad kind of disbursement, where you do get hit with a 30% penalty.


Polgara - Jun 20, 2005 9:24:18 am PDT #3123 of 10001
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

I'll just put away some pre-tax, but not with house in mind. I can borrow against it anyway, to supplement, I guess.

Most companies will match a small amount of your contributions to 401k plans, such as the first 4%. So at the very least, you should be putting in that much, 'cause it's automatically doubled. If you're not contributing enough to get the match, you're basically turning down free money.