Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.

'Shells'


Spike's Bitches 24: I'm Very Seldom Naughty.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 10, 2005 10:30:19 am PDT #9603 of 10001
What is even happening?

I seem to recall the boys circs took way less time to heal than their belly buttons did. Maybe a week, Beej. The urine doesn't seem to bother it. I'd think it would too, but it doesn't. I slathered them in Vaseline though, every time I changed them, and it provides a pretty effective barrier, I think.


Hil R. - Jul 10, 2005 10:34:11 am PDT #9604 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm pretty sure that a medical circumcision heals a bit differently than one done by a moyel, since the procedure itself is a bit different, usually.


Volans - Jul 10, 2005 10:36:32 am PDT #9605 of 10001
move out and draw fire

What Cindy said. They gave us a little antibiotic ointment for once a day, and vaseline-covered gauze to keep the raw skin from sticking to other skin or diaper, and said to do that for a week. He was fine, it healed much faster than the cord stump, and didn't seem to cause him any discomfort.

Hey Fay...yep, we do. Some of us. I think about 50% of (non-Jewish) Americans do it. I left the decision to Mal's father, not feeling equipped to make that call.


Emily - Jul 10, 2005 10:36:47 am PDT #9606 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

You all do this, don't you? The circumcision thing?

Not everyone. But lots.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 10, 2005 10:37:09 am PDT #9607 of 10001
What is even happening?

Hil, by different, do you mean surgical circs heal more quickly or slowly? There are different techniques among surgeons, as well. I used to know what they were, but those brain cells are gone.

You all do this, don't you? The circumcision thing?

Some people do apart from religious reasons. On the other hand, my husband's uncle accused all the next generation of of mutilating our sons' sex. Some research indicates female partners of circumcised males have lower rates of cervical cancer. Some research indicates circumcised males have lower rates of HIV infection. I was for it, because my own uncle had a medical need to have it done when he was in his 40s or so, and it seemed better to take care of it in infancy.


Hil R. - Jul 10, 2005 10:41:19 am PDT #9608 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hil, by different, do you mean surgical circs heal more quickly or slowly? There are different techniques among surgeons, as well.

I'm not entirely sure. I think I've heard that the medical ones heal more slowly, because of the clamps used or something, but this is all just vague "I think I heard it somewhere."


Volans - Jul 10, 2005 10:42:19 am PDT #9609 of 10001
move out and draw fire

My midwife ( not doula, which is the Greek word for maid or slave), who as a Greek was opposed to the procedure, said her son had to have it done for some reason when he was 2, and it was horribly painful and traumatic, especially wrt urination, which he tried to not do. So that helped convince me.

Mal started repeating my sounds tonight! It may be a fluke of course, but still - spooky!


Steph L. - Jul 10, 2005 10:43:49 am PDT #9610 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I have no real thoughts to contribute on circumcision.

However, as part of my Photo Album For Bro's Wedding project, I have yet another picture to share (Arrested Development fans, take note): Steve Holt!


beekaytee - Jul 10, 2005 10:43:54 am PDT #9611 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

That is good to hear. The moyel (thanks for the spelling!) gave the 'rents some medicated jelly to use, which I'm guessing will help.

I just kept imagining acid on a wound and it made me wince.

My husband, lo those many years ago, was uncircumcised but he's the only man I've ever known, in the biblical sense, who wasn't.

The father's dad is a Pakistani physician. I asked if the dad had screamed when he was circumcised and the grand dad looked shocked. "No! I gave him Demorol!" Huh. I guess that would do it.


Amy - Jul 10, 2005 10:52:35 am PDT #9612 of 10001
Because books.

Timelies all. It's sunny and clear and getting hotter by the minute here, but not, thank goodness, humid. Yesterday after the rain the whole house -- furniture, linens -- felt vaguely damp.

{{{those in Dennis's path}}}

You all do this, don't you? The circumcision thing?

It seems almost like one of those self-perpetuating things. I know Stephen thought the boys should probably have it done because he had, simply because he didn't want them to feel different from Daddy. But also because it's such common practice here, that he didn't want them to feel self-conscious around other boys.

I don't think I've ever seen an uncircumcised penis.