Riley: No pulse. Anya: Yup. The space lamb got 'im.

'Never Leave Me'


Spike's Bitches 24: I'm Very Seldom Naughty.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DavidS - Jul 01, 2005 6:07:24 am PDT #8068 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Awww, Ple, I'm sorry I jerked your chain when you're having such a shitty week.

Feel free to punch me in the head anytime.

I'll bet JZ's Matron-friend will have some good ideas. She's all dressmakery.


billytea - Jul 01, 2005 6:11:39 am PDT #8069 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

"Now prepare your brain, filthy beast of meat and hair, your magical love adventure begins NOW!”

And so begins a brand new Amazing Race.


DavidS - Jul 01, 2005 6:17:37 am PDT #8070 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And so begins a brand new Amazing Race.

I think you should put it in your dating profile.


-t - Jul 01, 2005 6:18:06 am PDT #8071 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, and I"m sorry you're having such trouble with the new car, Plei. I think I forgot to say that. Buying a new car (by which I mean not opreviously owned by you, I've never bought a new new car, so I don't know what that involves, really) should be happy-making and worry-lifting, not frutrating and needing work done. Bah.

But I also totally understand how just wanting the whole car buying process to be over gets you to this place. It's just luck that my own near meltdowns of "Just take this one so we don't have to look anymore" turned out relatively well.


Susan W. - Jul 01, 2005 6:28:41 am PDT #8072 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

{{{Plei}}} No advice to give, but I so sympathize on the dress-buying issue. I swear the baby-industrial complex thinks that the only women who reproduce are 5'4" and get pregnant with a B or C cup that neatly expands to a D or DD, no further, during the pregnancy/nursing period.

My rant of the day: I just joined a new diet support group that sprung from one of my writers' lists, hoping for some reason that it wouldn't be filled with the usual happy talk diet cheerleading combined with obsessiveness that made me vow never to attend another WW meeting.

Someone responded to my intro post with the following "encouragement": "Nothing tastes as good as thin feels."

Grr. Like I haven't heard that particular inanity a thousand times already, and like it's not fucking bullshit besides, and like I even want to be thin--thin doesn't look good on me. I just want to be a healthy weight, slim and strong but still with curves.

Now I just have to decide whether this group is doomed to be useless and unsubscribe in a silent huff, or try to explain that look, I know you meant to be nice, but I can't stand that phrase and tend to have similar knee-jerk reactions to all the dieting platitudes, so can we please find some other way to support me.


-t - Jul 01, 2005 6:35:08 am PDT #8073 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's a big part of why I haven't taken advantage of any of the support e-diets keeps telling me I have available, Susan. Are these people you know pretty well from the writer's list, so you can say "That doesn't motivate me" and have them understand that that comes from Susan who has beta read for us and so forth?

It seems like if you could make it work, then it would be valuable. I guess it depends on whetehr what you want from this group is what everyone else wants, as well. More or less.

Eh. More coffee needed, clearly.


JZ - Jul 01, 2005 6:39:55 am PDT #8074 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Plei, what's your cup size? I'm positive Charlotte can come through with a suggestion or five, but I want to give her the right info. Also, I have another top-heavy momfriend who's only an inch or so taller than you, so if Charlotte's suggestions are too talllgirl to work for you, I'll ping friend #2.


Susan W. - Jul 01, 2005 6:41:15 am PDT #8075 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I don't know them super-well, -t--the group sprung from sort of a general writing list that does Q&As, craft topic discussions, etc., rather than hard-core critiques and the like. But I think I'll try saying something like, "One of the reasons I've had trouble with WW and the like in the past is that standard diet talk tends to send me fleeing for the exits."


askye - Jul 01, 2005 6:53:21 am PDT #8076 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Susan maybe you could respond with something like "I realize that you intended that as encouragment, however my goal is not to be thin, but to be healthy no matter what that size is."


-t - Jul 01, 2005 6:53:40 am PDT #8077 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That sounds mild enough. Then you can flee, if it keeps up.