Link, Julie? Just for the lols.

Bev, my first thought was that you spelled lulz wrong, dear god brain.

I'm working my way through the J2BB, and I clicked on The American President because hey! political intrigue, Secret Service, action and violence! Once I hit the point I complained about, it was more chapters of hospital vigils, meeting the parents, talking about feelings, and just lots and lots of fluff.

Before that it was inappropriate sex in the White House. 'Twas not a very good fic, but not hilariously bad, porn and fluff, but if you want to give it a try, here it is [link]

ita, I was leaving the show when the Harvelles died, and that just put the nail in the coffin. In part because of my feminism issues, but also because I found the whole angels-God-heaven-destined Chalice plot line to be far less interesting than the story where some random guy wakes up from a late movie to see his wife on fire on the ceiling, and turns his life into something he'd never even imagined before.

What I liked about the first 3-4 seasons was the way that the Winchesters weren't destined to be hunters, and had no special destiny. (Mary being a hunter did a nice job of giving her back some agency, but at the cost of some of the random chance elements.) That was the story I was interested in, and as the show grew away from being about ordinary people dealing with the supernatural while still constrained by reality, I grew away too. (And that there weren't any women who could apparently stick it out in that world--that bothered me, too.)

I don't know why other people left the show. That was it for me.

Oh, and the reason I came by this thread: [link]

Anyone who ever enjoyed Leverage should watch that vid: it's simply wonderful.

Oh! Thanks for that, 'suela. It is wonderful. And now the absence of new Leverage that's been simmering in the background just got worse. I miss new Leverage!

And that there weren't any women who could apparently stick it out in that world--that bothered me, too.

Poor Meg, no one ever gave her credit...seven and a half seasons until the first time you die is pretty fucking epic for any Winchester proximity, lady! You will be missed.

Once the boys killed their first god, I needed God in the story. I am very happy about how they took on Judeo Christianity, barring one episode. But if they're going to go around offing other people's deities, the vulnerability of Yahweh's mythos needed to be on the table for me.

But! That's not what I wanted to talk about. Just about if the Vividcon vidders had ever been SPN and now were not, or if that's just my biased and limited perception. I don't really care why anyone leaves the show. It's Kripke/Gamble/Carver's job to keep eyes, not mine.

I don't know if John has seen that vid, but I sent it to him anyway.

I get the impression I have more AU hangups than most readers (uh, more hangups period than most readers). I'm not a big fan of "why not?" I'd rather ask "why?"

Just about if the Vividcon vidders had ever been SPN and now were not, or if that's just my biased and limited perception.

Yes, there was a lot of SPN in the first few years of the show, but over time there's been a wider distribution of sources on the VVC DVD set. I think people don't want to be all vidding the same source. So even folks that are big SPN fans may look elsewhere when submitting for VVC.

But Dana may know more than I.

I guess that's more a year upon year sort of thing, and they don't always know what everyone else will be submitting in a given year, because after a while I didn't know if I was watching a new Avengers vid, or the same one again.

The vids made me like Captain America more (how possible???) and Thor less--both had effective shots pulled from them, but for CA they felt characteristic, and for Thor I couldn't help thinking the rest of the movie wasn't like that, though. Both good jobs on the part of the vidders, and it's no one's job to make sure they have the most outlying good idea.

Ah, thank you Ao3, for giving us the capability to search within results and exclude the mpreg tag. SO MUCH crap just vanished off my works found page...

Ah, thank you Ao3, for giving us the capability to search within results and exclude the mpreg tag

I wish you could do that by chapter...perfectly sufficient alpha/beta/omega (why is no one in a main pairing beta in D/C, if the world has omegas in? anyway...) then turns into MPREG. I want to read up until the word "pup" is used outside of dirty talk, pretty much.